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How can you encounter Fried Liver Attack? 🤔
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Traxler

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Same
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After Bc4, Bc5
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Well, here is how a patzer responded to it (against another patzer). Black was completely winning around move 30, but it was a fast (rapid) game so he did not find how to kill White.

This line is just one out of four that give Black a good game (and no, the Traxler is not one of those good lines).

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WiseDragonCat έγραψε:

Mr. @pfren its dont need to be that much complicated 🙃

The lines you are giving aren't less complicated, and also they are wrong, e.g. 5.Bxd5? loses to 5...Nxd5 6.exd5 Qxg5 7.dxc6 Qxg2, and after 5.exd5 Na5 6.Bb5+ Bd7 (which is a good move) 7.Qe2! the move 7...Bd6 is somewhat better than 7...Be7.

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WiseDragonCat έγραψε:

You can look to stockfish too , its all is book moves Mr.

Stockfish says that

A. 5.Bxd5?? Nxd5 6.exd5 Qxg5 wins on the spot.

B. That 7...Be7 and 7...Bd6 are both around 0.2, but the idea behind 7...Bd6 is not just protecting e5, but also something more concrete: Answering 8.Nc3 with 8...c6! when Black has at least equality.

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WiseDragonCat έγραψε:

Oh, i looked To stockfish too and its says my way is perfect 😅 but your way is looks interesting Mr. 🙂

My way? Nah. I'm not Sinatra.

7...Bd6 has been played by Carlsen, as well as other 2700+ players, and also at the top ICCF level, where mr. Stockfish is left to analyse for days, not seconds, as in your "analyses". And this is a typical ICCF game:

After 8...Be7 9.Nf3! it is somewhat more difficult for Black to prove his compensation (which is there).

Opening analysis is a serious business, which needs accuracy, patience and inventiveness. Evaluating a position by looking at what the crippled ChesDot Com engine says after a couple of minutes isn't the way to go.

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#6, Jerome Gambit could’ve happened there, and the Jerome Gambit is pretty fatal if you slip up while trying to counter it.
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[Event "OTB"]
[Site "Chess.com iPhone"]
[Date "2025.11.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "White"]
[Black "Black"]
[Result "*"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Nxe5 Nxe5 5.Bxf7+ Kxf7 6.Qh5+ g6 7.Qxe5 Kf8 8.Qxc5+ d6 {*}
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ScotchFegalleto έγραψε:
#6, Jerome Gambit could’ve happened there, and the Jerome Gambit is pretty fatal if you slip up while trying to counter it.

I agree. Playing a gambit that its refutation (actually two of its refutations) is shown even in Wikipedia sounds like a brilliant idea.

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Thanks! Also, how do you post a game? BTW, I’m a 300 elo, so you probably shouldn’t take my advice
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ScotchFegalleto wrote:
[Event "OTB"]
[Site "Chess.com iPhone"]
[Date "2025.11.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "White"]
[Black "Black"]
[Result "*"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Nxe5 Nxe5 5.Bxf7+ Kxf7 6.Qh5+ g6 7.Qxe5 Kf8 8.Qxc5+ d6 {*}

Pretty sure that this

Is the Jerome Gambit
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and then queen h4.

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sorry, I meant H5

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I don’t think it matters if you take with the bishop or knight first
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Meowl

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It's to easy to defend

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pfren wrote:

Well, here is how a patzer responded to it

To what?

I would have been shocked to see the Fried Liver played between superGMs, and indeed it wasn't played in this game. Magnus played the b5 line instead.

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