Gambits against d4

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Nikoxlas έγραψε:
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Thanks for the suggestion

A very sound and aggressive one: the Benko Gambit

 

 

The Benko is not agressive, and it requires very good endgame technique, which newbies do not possess.

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Ok found the line but instead of 7 ...qe7 ( talking about Alekhine ) 7...d6 8 Bd3 Qh4+9g3 Qf6 10 Qc2 Na6 11Ne2 Bc5 12 e5 dxe5 black went on to win (sample game ) due to winning material
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No good players ie recommend or play the benko and I thought it wasn’t sound it’s always the butt of jokes in chess commentary
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Sorry ignore me I’m thinking of the Benoni 😂
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Defending d4 is not easy and will prove to be tricky

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WSama wrote:

A lot of people avoid this one, but it's playable if you ask me:

Englund Gambit

 

You could also try this (again, people avoid it, but it works) :

 

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Kai_boy wrote:
WSama wrote:

A lot of people avoid this one, but it's playable if you ask me:

Englund Gambit

 

You could also try this (again, people avoid it, but it works) :

 

Englund doesn't work. But 1...c5 works, since you can always get the pawn back.

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1...c5 you can just play d5 and either c4 or e4 depending or take it if you want a sharper line but I don’t thinks it any good Eric Rosen does some vids on YouTube on refuting it
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Albin countergambit and Hennig Schara gambit are pretty sharp openings against d4. Much More tactical than the Benko imho. The Baltic and chigorin defense of the QGD are not gambits but might fit, as they can Immediately  become wild and tactically complex.Blumenfeld and Vaganian gambitS are cousins of the Benko. The English attack can become a gambit pretty quickly too I think.

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It’s definitely playable at 1400 though 🤣. Also, the OP happens to be a 1400 player...  I see a match 🤔

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Just checked that alekhine line in the Budapest with the engine after 9 Qe2 it likes black -0.4
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SNUDOO wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
Nikoxlas wrote:
sparxs escribió:

Thanks for the suggestion

A very sound and aggressive one: the Benko Gambit

 

 

[snip]

 

Also, Gambit and Initiative are not synonymous!

 

The Budapest Gambit, White can return the pawn and force Black into an extremely passive position.

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out of curiosity, which line for white forces black into a passive position? Is it the Alekhine attack?

Yes, Alekhine's variation is best for forcing black into a passive position, although you have some positional weaknesses.

Additionally, black can still gambit a pawn:

 

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Also, someone mentioned the Englund.

I used to play it, and still mess around with it in blitz.

It can easily be refuted. If you like getting your queen harrassed and your king staying in the center, go for it!

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Here is a bullet game I saw once, where a 1400 player beat grandmaster Maxim Dlugy with the Budapest.

I think it was played on ICC, if I recall.

 

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Am I missing something the computer gives +0.7 after Qxb7 what’s the knockout blow ( yeah I once drew against Gm Alex lenderman as a 1400 on icc using purely opening prep so it can happen
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Actually goes up to +1.78 if you give some time is this the right line ? Doubly tragic if a gm resigned and he was winning 😂
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MatthewFreitag wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
Nikoxlas wrote:
sparxs escribió:

Thanks for the suggestion

A very sound and aggressive one: the Benko Gambit

 

 

[snip]

 

Also, Gambit and Initiative are not synonymous!

 

The Budapest Gambit, White can return the pawn and force Black into an extremely passive position.

[snip]

out of curiosity, which line for white forces black into a passive position? Is it the Alekhine attack?

Yes, Alekhine's variation is best for forcing black into a passive position, although you have some positional weaknesses.

Additionally, black can still gambit a pawn:

 



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SNUDOO wrote:
MatthewFreitag wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
Nikoxlas wrote:
sparxs escribió:

Thanks for the suggestion

A very sound and aggressive one: the Benko Gambit

 

 

[snip]

 

Also, Gambit and Initiative are not synonymous!

 

The Budapest Gambit, White can return the pawn and force Black into an extremely passive position.

[snip]

out of curiosity, which line for white forces black into a passive position? Is it the Alekhine attack?

Yes, Alekhine's variation is best for forcing black into a passive position, although you have some positional weaknesses.

Additionally, black can still gambit a pawn:

 



I think in the line you show, 4...h5 can easily be met with 5. h3, where your h pawn advance weakens your kingside greatly in an opening where you are already struggling for development.

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yes, @matthewfreitag , T. Taylor comments that 5.h3 is most challenging. But I didn't bother reading that section anyways because I have never encountered Alekhine Attack. But apparently there's a solution somewhere.