Are you really going to react like that? I just made points. It's no reason to get upset.
I don't know how you're distinguishing adult discussion. Like anyone who disagrees isn't an adult?
Good Opening for Beginners?
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ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
TheSampson wrote:
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
Easily the Caro-Kann. Watch GothamChess’s video on it.
The Caro-Kann is pretty good, but I recommend the Ruy Lopez, the French, and the Nimzo-Indian at the beginner level.
The Ruy lopez is incredibly impractical and you’ll get so many different positions thoughout your games that it’s like playing the opening without theory
You can force the game into something you will get 99% of the time as white. Why play the Ruy Lopez if you’re gonna get a Bird’s one day, a Cozio another, or a fianchetto the third? It doesn’t make sense.
Well I actually like facing a diverse number of options. Makes the game so much more fun
I quote from Gotham
“ Why on earth would you play the Ruy Lopez. Who do you think you are? You think you’re some 2700 rated Grandmaster? Do you even know what the Ruy Lopez… is?
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Jun 4, 2023
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ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
TheSampson wrote:
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
Easily the Caro-Kann. Watch GothamChess’s video on it.
The Caro-Kann is pretty good, but I recommend the Ruy Lopez, the French, and the Nimzo-Indian at the beginner level.
The Ruy lopez is incredibly impractical and you’ll get so many different positions thoughout your games that it’s like playing the opening without theory
You can force the game into something you will get 99% of the time as white. Why play the Ruy Lopez if you’re gonna get a Bird’s one day, a Cozio another, or a fianchetto the third? It doesn’t make sense.
Sea_TurtIe wrote:
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
TheSampson wrote:
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
Easily the Caro-Kann. Watch GothamChess’s video on it.
The Caro-Kann is pretty good, but I recommend the Ruy Lopez, the French, and the Nimzo-Indian at the beginner level.
The Ruy lopez is incredibly impractical and you’ll get so many different positions thoughout your games that it’s like playing the opening without theory
You can force the game into something you will get 99% of the time as white. Why play the Ruy Lopez if you’re gonna get a Bird’s one day, a Cozio another, or a fianchetto the third? It doesn’t make sense.
I wonder why it’s said so much. Oh yeah, it’s true! You can’t play an opening you’re never going to understand.
FrogboyWarpz wrote:
I quote from Gotham
“ Why on earth would you play the Ruy Lopez. Who do you think you are? You think you’re some 2700 rated Grandmaster? Do you even know what the Ruy Lopez… is?
So you admit it?
I am just quoting from Gotham
FrogboyWarpz wrote:
I am just quoting from Gotham
oh, still scared to admit it then
Nah i heavily disagree with him and you on this matter. Scrumptious you really shouldn’t be arguing with someone twice your rating
For white either evans gambit or giuoco pianissimo, scotch (scotch gambit can also work), ruy lopez, rossolimo against sicilian and queen’s gambit.
For black petrov defense (you just need to know what to do against the boden-kieseritzky gambit, against cochrane gambit and against modern attack) the nimzo indian and the caro kann (Just make sure you know what to do against fantasy and against breyer variation, specially 3.Qe2 lines)
Jun 4, 2023
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As black I love to play amy variation of Sicilian depending on what the other person plays.
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
I wonder why it’s said so much. Oh yeah, it’s true! You can’t play an opening you’re never going to understand.
I wonder why it's said so much by Gothamchess and his fans specifically but no-one else. Oh yeah, because it's bs.
I play the konstatinopowsky variant of the king's knight opening with white, with black I play the German defense or Prussia, and the bird against Ruy Lopez and the Dutch against d4
i think a good opening is the reti opening with a fianchetto
you will fianchetto then castle then break with d4 and c4
Because he promotes garbage hope chess where you play some trash, hoping to surprise the opponent, and if they arem't surprised then you are just worse.
I don't follow him that closely, but I have seen him play some of the openings he promotes. When he was playing tournaments for GM norms, he had good positions in most games, and then lost many of them, but not because of the opening.
So he didn't win because of the opening either. Also there's a difference between what someone plays because it's their style and it works for them and what should be promoted in general.
Should everyone play the Stafford Gambit because Eric Rosen has a winning record with it?
If you want to have an adult discussion get back to me, I'm not going to engage in a strawman argument.