Im afriad I dont get it ethier but I 'd like to is there a article or book that talks about this more simply (dumbfied) cause to me it sounds like a way of measuring how risky a position is.
AFAIK no articles about it yet, I invented it 3 days ago.
O I get it now can this be used to measure a risk of an attack for instance if pure calculation doesn't show a clear answer and the positional factors are a little to be desired could I go off hieght like if its 8+5=13 since white has more and I'm playing white I should go for it or the opposite.
O I get it now can this be used to measure a risk of an attack for instance if pure calculation doesn't show a clear answer and the positional factors are a little to be desired could I go off hieght like if its 8+5=13 since white has more and I'm playing white I should go for it or the opposite.
If one stares at the random for long enough, one will imagine that he sees order.
O I get it now can this be used to measure a risk of an attack for instance if pure calculation doesn't show a clear answer and the positional factors are a little to be desired could I go off hieght like if its 8+5=13 since white has more and I'm playing white I should go for it or the opposite.
This generic quantification by heights can't really help U in a concrete position. Only advances of pawns are taken into account. Though, it's possible to introduce the measure of proximity (and of threatening ability) of white pieces to the black king and vice versa. It might be useful for your purpose of risk estimations.
Height h of the traditional line in Najdorf:
1.e4 (h=2) c5 (h=4) 2.Nf3 d6 (h=5) 3.d4 (h=7) cxd4 (h=9) 4.Nxd4 (h=10) Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 (h=11) 6.Bg5 e6 (h=12) 7.f4 (h=14) Be7 8.Qf3 Qc7 9.O-O-O (h=17) Nbd7 10.g4 (h=19) b5 (h=21)
very nice assessment
very nice assessment
thanx!
Height h of the main line in Ruy Lopez:
1.e4 (h=2) e5 (h=4) 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 (h=5) 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O (h=8) Be7 6.Re1 b5 (h=10) 7.Bb3 d6 (h=11) 8.c3 (h=12) O-O (h=15)9.h3 (h=16) Na5 10.Bc2 c5 (h=18)
An interesting metric, for sure. You'd need to basically calculate it wholesale over lots of different games; maybe even graph it alongside game progressions to see what relationships might pop out.
How can this be useful for a player?
I don't understand why did you "developped" that metric? What will it help to understand?
risk etimation perhaps.
This opening is very high
An interesting metric, for sure. You'd need to basically calculate it wholesale over lots of different games; maybe even graph it alongside game progressions to see what relationships might pop out.
I will keep track and will try and use it as a risk estimation as chessmaster suggested
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This opening is very high
I'd have to agree using the system as a risk estimation would be like saying this opening is very high.
Cogwheel, DoigteurFou et al.: First of all, it's just to have fun.
Secondly, I wanna quantify the set of all chess positions. I'm sure that with future developments of comps, the chess will be more or less resolved within one century. If U think a bit, U'll understand that the first natural quantification is by heights that can't exceed something like 100. With current development of opening theory, heights go easily toward 30. With retrograde analysis in da endgame theory, Nalimov tablebases etc., depthes go now toward 10+. So, the more or less total theoretical understanding of this great game might be not so far.
Wouldn't it make sense to measure "height" separately for the White and for the Black ?
Atos & Catalyst : yeah, definitely, I'll add appropriate definitions and examples later today.
This is a concept related to DTZ (depth-to-zero) metric in da endgame theory.
I looked up depth-to-zero metric on wikipedia, but I don't understand how it relates to your height metric.
Not directly. They count number of moves till the 1st irreversible. I count the number of irreversible moves that already happened in a game.
but what would be blacks hieght then when you say 15=10+5
10 for white and 5 for black.