How I like to play the London system - Chess Forums - Page 3

TheLateVRules · 2021-04-09T03:51:22-07:00

I love the London system. I am going to show you how I play it. That's how most of my games go and there is also a brilliant fork too. If you are a d4 player this is a good opening for you.

krazeechess

Sep 17, 2021

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#41

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

B1ZMARK wrote:

not really a big difference.

Black has a chance to win by 7% more. That's a big difference.

not really a lot of that is iffy since it includes some games with blunders plus at an intermediate level it doesn't matter

krazeechess

Sep 17, 2021

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#42

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

krazeechess wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

B1ZMARK wrote:

not really a big difference.

Black has a chance to win by 7% more. That's a big difference.

not really a lot of that is iffy since it includes some games with blunders plus at an intermediate level it doesn't matter

There are games with blunders in the Queen's Gambit. At an intermediate level, that does matter.

uh no only masters will know 20 move theory to take advantage of that 7%

keep1teasy

Sep 17, 2021

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#43

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

B1ZMARK wrote:

not really a big difference.

Black has a chance to win by 7% more. That's a big difference.

Not really. 2.e4 has a 54% winrate after 1.d4 d5.

The total score for 2.e4 is ~61%.

the total score for 2.c4 is ~67%.

The total score for 2.Bf4 is ~65%.

EKAFC

Sep 17, 2021

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#44

It's a masters database. There is a reason they go for Queen's Gambit over a London consistently. Also, in the masters database, it has a larger sample size to show how well it scores compared to the less played London.

PerpetualPatzer123

Sep 18, 2021

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#45

Nickolay said the London was bad. Now he is saying that it is bad compared to other openings. Pick one, Nickolay. Stop using straw man after straw man.

EKAFC

Sep 18, 2021

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#46

AunTheKnight wrote:

Nickolay said the London was bad. Now he is saying that it is bad compared to other openings. Pick one, Nickolay. Stop using straw man after straw man.

Both are true. Learn a real opening like Queen's Gambit

assassin3752

Sep 18, 2021

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#47

EKAFC wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

Nickolay said the London was bad. Now he is saying that it is bad compared to other openings. Pick one, Nickolay. Stop using straw man after straw man.

Both are true. Learn a real opening like Queen's Gambit

whats so bad about the london?

PerpetualPatzer123

Sep 18, 2021

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#48

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

darkbrah7654 wrote:

EKAFC wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

Nickolay said the London was bad. Now he is saying that it is bad compared to other openings. Pick one, Nickolay. Stop using straw man after straw man.

Both are true. Learn a real opening like Queen's Gambit

whats so bad about the london?

It's a system. That means it will always be worse than the more theoretical openings.

Having the word “system” in the name means it’s worse? Makes sense. Totally.

You do realise the London actually has a lot of theory, right? People just play it as a system.

PerpetualPatzer123

Sep 18, 2021

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#49

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

darkbrah7654 wrote:

EKAFC wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

Nickolay said the London was bad. Now he is saying that it is bad compared to other openings. Pick one, Nickolay. Stop using straw man after straw man.

Both are true. Learn a real opening like Queen's Gambit

whats so bad about the london?

It's a system. That means it will always be worse than the more theoretical openings.

Having the word “system” in the name means it’s worse? Makes sense. Totally.

You do realise the London actually has a lot of theory, right? People just play it as a system.

"London has lots of theory" lol

Have you not seen the Na3 lines? You also did not address any of the points I made.

PerpetualPatzer123

Sep 18, 2021

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#50

ShouldBeABreeze wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

darkbrah7654 wrote:

EKAFC wrote:

AunTheKnight wrote:

Nickolay said the London was bad. Now he is saying that it is bad compared to other openings. Pick one, Nickolay. Stop using straw man after straw man.

Both are true. Learn a real opening like Queen's Gambit

whats so bad about the london?

It's a system. That means it will always be worse than the more theoretical openings.

Having the word “system” in the name means it’s worse? Makes sense. Totally.

You do realise the London actually has a lot of theory, right? People just play it as a system.

"London has lots of theory" lol

Have you not seen the Na3 lines? You also did not address any of the points I made.

He seems to be really good at doing that, as you can probably tell.

He’s definitely trolling. No one can be this oblivious and moronic.

keep1teasy

Sep 18, 2021

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#51

B1ZMARK wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

B1ZMARK wrote:

not really a big difference.

Black has a chance to win by 7% more. That's a big difference.

Not really. 2.e4 has a 54% winrate after 1.d4 d5.

The total score for 2.e4 is ~61%.

the total score for 2.c4 is ~67%.

The total score for 2.Bf4 is ~65%.

i like how nickolay has conveniently ignored this.

keep1teasy

Sep 18, 2021

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#52

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

Says the 700 player...

Dude.

bro getting jason repa vibes. Choosing the lowest rating and then belittling them. Hahaha. But i am only 1200, what can i say?

Hikaru75

Sep 18, 2021

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#53

My word of advice about playing the London, it is a good opening to play, but please please please, learn how to play other openings. It is not good for improving because it only teaches you one type of structure that you can play against anything. If you really want to get better, do not play the London all the time, change it up, try some Catalin, Queens gambit etc.

Hikaru75

Sep 18, 2021

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#54

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

ShouldBeABreeze wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

ShouldBeABreeze wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

Says the 700 player...

Dude.

Chess isn't a game of chance, go play Blackjack, maybe you'd have some luck there. The topic wasn't rating, focus a bit, will you!?

I am focusing a lot. Dude, no wonder you are 700 and cannot improve. Hello?

Read my last comment, hysterical, really. You play chess, yet can't comprehend English?! How about you go back to staring at a bunch of percentages to back up a skill-based game some more?

Dude I have straight As in English and I am Canadian. I am just shocked that a person cannot have enough common sense to figure that out.

Is English not the primary language spoken in Canada though?

PerpetualPatzer123

Sep 19, 2021

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#55

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

ShouldBeABreeze wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

B1ZMARK wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

Says the 700 player...

Dude.

bro getting jason repa vibes. Choosing the lowest rating and then belittling them. Hahaha. But i am only 1200, what can i say?

How am I supposed to know his rapid? Daily is the next closest thing.

Oh please, rating was never a topic, troll.

If you were 2000 and reached that in 2 years, I would start to actually believe or consider what you said. I am just shocked that a player can even think so.

You don’t need a high rating to look at an openings database.

DarkKnightAttack

Sep 19, 2021

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#56

Hikaru75 wrote:

My word of advice about playing the London, it is a good opening to play, but please please please, learn how to play other openings. It is not good for improving because it only teaches you one type of structure that you can play against anything. If you really want to get better, do not play the London all the time, change it up, try some Catalin, Queens gambit etc.

Yes! At least we should try new openings and different structures in unrated games, very important for learning.

ninjaswat

Sep 19, 2021

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#57

ShouldBeABreeze wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

ShouldBeABreeze wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

B1ZMARK wrote:

ChesswithNickolay wrote:

Says the 700 player...

Dude.

bro getting jason repa vibes. Choosing the lowest rating and then belittling them. Hahaha. But i am only 1200, what can i say?

How am I supposed to know his rapid? Daily is the next closest thing.

Oh please, rating was never a topic, troll.

If you were 2000 and reached that in 2 years, I would start to actually believe or consider what you said. I am just shocked that a player can even think so.

Yes so, if my rating is not 2000 anything I say cannot be considered? I didn't believe anyone could be this much of a moron until now.

Believe me this is anything but unexpected. Also tf I know 1300s who know more about openings than I do, rating is only an average of performance throughout the entire game, not the opening.

DasBurner

Sep 19, 2021

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#58

Thread summarized so far:

Shoddy opening play in the original post
aditysaxena guy showcasing bad moves and acting like it's prep
A bunch of intermediates arguing over Queen's Gambit in a London thread
Intermediates disregarding the criticism of their criticism in favor of more debate on what opening is better when the win rates are almost identical
Discussion on grades for some reason
Rating insults

Definitely the Chess.com forums

PerpetualPatzer123

Sep 19, 2021

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#59

DasBurner wrote:

Thread summarized so far:

Shoddy opening play in the original post
aditysaxena guy showcasing bad moves and acting like it's prep
A bunch of intermediates arguing over Queen's Gambit in a London thread
Intermediates disregarding the criticism of their criticism in favor of more debate on what opening is better when the win rates are almost identical
Discussion on grades for some reason
Rating insults

Definitely the Chess.com forums

Sad, but true.

EKAFC

Sep 19, 2021

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#60

London still bad