How should black play for a win against 1. d4? - Chess Forums - Page 3

Glaucon333 · 2019-03-08T12:20:21-08:00

The slav and semi-slav complex seems to be a reasonable try to win, but it is all bypassed by the exchange variation of the slav, which gives a symmetrical pawn structure. For the QGD, Sam Shankland says that the opening is mainly playing for a draw, not a win. White seems to often hold a very

kindaspongey

Mar 26, 2019

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Is this discussion about 1 d4 Nc6 2 d5 Nb8 ?

RussBell

Mar 26, 2019

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#42

Attack With Black by Valery Aveskulov...

Aggressive repertoire for Black based around the Benko, Vaganian and Blumenfeld Gambits...

https://www.amazon.com/Attack-Black-Valery-Aveskulov/dp/1906454396/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CD32ZA38BG3H&keywords=attack+with+black&qid=1553664448&s=books&sprefix=attack+with+black%2Cstripbooks%2C204&sr=1-1

Alterman Gambit Guide - Black Gambits 1 by Boris Alterman......coverage of the same gambits (and more) as in Aveskulov....

https://www.amazon.com/Alterman-Gambit-Guide-Black-Gambits/dp/1906552541/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_3?keywords=alterman+gambit+guide&qid=1553664622&s=books&sr=1-3-fkmrnull

For online learning, a complete repertoire (one which you can play for a win) against 1.d4 - built around the Benko Gambit - is available on Chessable....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr5HGef-2jg

https://www.chessable.com/chessexplaineds-benko-repertoire-a-complete-answer-to-1d4/course/3258/

CM BL4D3RUNN3R

Mar 26, 2019

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Fianchettoed bishops provide (latent) dynamism.

So I play both b6 and g6 systems.

KID is the mother of all d4 bashers. It cannot be tamed, even the engines are respecting it nowadays.

kindaspongey

Mar 27, 2019

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RussBell wrote:

Attack With Black by Valery Aveskulov ...

Alterman Gambit Guide - Black Gambits 1 by Boris Alterman ...

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627001415/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen164.pdf

http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Attack_with_Black.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627113531/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen156.pdf

https://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/Black-Gambits-1-exceprt.pdf

bergjes007

Mar 27, 2019

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RooksAreCannons wrote:

bergjes007 escribió:

RooksAreCannons wrote:

Everyone not considering the austrian attack and it's great

I'm very sure that you're in the wrong topic.

Mmm no.

Austrian Attack is a line in the Pirc where white does f4 quickly.

Optimissed

Mar 27, 2019

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kindaspongey wrote:

Is this discussion about 1 d4 Nc6 2 d5 Nb8 ?>>

Sadly, it was. Mind you, I do get it in the KID sometimes they play Nc6 before e5 for some reason and after d5 they've been known to retreat to b8. It's bad but less so than in this case where white hasn't played c4, which there's no need for here when white gets a three move d4-d5-e4 start.

bergjes007

Mar 27, 2019

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It's also called the Sicilian Defence and the King's Indian Attack. That's because of the color of the board that plays it.

d0su

Mar 27, 2019

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darkunorthodox88 wrote:

1.d4 nc6

if 2.d4, play 2.d5 or 2.e5

if 2.c4 play 2.e5 or 2.d5 (2.nf6 is playable too, but 2.e5 is the superior order)

if 2.nf3 , then play 2.d6 aiming for a pirc/kid structure or 2.d5 chigorin style.

if 2.d5, learn to play the Mikenas with ne5, or just play nb8 and pirc it.

you will never be bored as black again.

This is my approach as well. The King's Indian Defense leads to games with lots of imbalances and chances for checkmating attacks, perfect for playing for a win. With 1...Nc6, black often aims for a kind of supercharged King's Indian, with the passive dark-square bishop either outside of the pawn chain or traded off entirely.

Even in the most critical lines (which TBH I have yet to see in any of my correspondence or OTB games), white's advantage is quite manageable, not much different than other responses to d4 or c4. I will admit that it does require a fair amount of study to not get yourself in trouble, though.