how to beat Slav defence?

PanosGreece

All players are aware of slav defence but a few players know how to beat it.

Any suggestions?

slav defence opening.

(1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6)

Shivsky

Could you clarify your question? If an opening can be "beat", then it ceases to be a playable opening at the highest levels.  Last I checked, the Slav continues to be respectable and used by GMs. (the more famous + recent use of it was by Kramnik  in 2006)

In the main line you listed, White can possibly "dull" out the game with the exchange variation (3.cxd5 cxd5). . To deal with this, Black usually varies the move order a bit ( ...e6 before ...c6)

PanosGreece

yeah probably i asked the wrong question. If i am white what tactic you suggest to use?

yusuf_prasojo

My favorite is the natural development of White pieces:

After the last move I can go with 7.Bd3 or 7.g4 when I'm in the mood for tactical battle.

kwaloffer

But that's the Semi-Slav, not the Slav. What do you play against 4...dxc4?

kwaloffer

You have the names confused, the system with both ...c6 and ...e6 is called the Semi-Slav because it's half a Slav and half a QGD. The lines you showed are the Slav.

PanosGreece

@ yusuf_prasojo so your main idea is to attack with your pawn but then no castle?

Pawnpusher3

I have always done very well vs. the slav as white.. I dont use the slav as black (I know its supposed to be "super solid" but its really not that amazing in my opinion [Kramnik thinks differently lol]) This is how I always handle the slav:

 

yusuf_prasojo
kwaloffer wrote:

But that's the Semi-Slav, not the Slav. What do you play against 4...dxc4?


5.a4, just like AnthonyCG's post. I understand if White top players will try to avoid this line, because Black has more than just an equality, but for me it is about who understand the position better. It is a standard Slav position, and is important to understand it well.

yusuf_prasojo
PanosGreece wrote:

@ yusuf_prasojo so your main idea is to attack with your pawn but then no castle?


No. Why did you get that impression?

yusuf_prasojo
pellik wrote:Don't know the line well enough to post it but I believe it is a mistake to play 3. Nc3 due to black getting the option of 3 ... dxc4. More common lines are 3. Nf3 or 3. e3. 

That's the real intention, to provoke 3...dxc4 4.e4. Of course you should prepare yourself first if you want to go that route. Here is a game to study:

CHEssGUEVARA

By how to beat it do you mean, play like Kasparov?

yusuf_prasojo
yusuf_prasojo wrote:
PanosGreece wrote: @ yusuf_prasojo so your main idea is to attack with your pawn but then no castle?

No. Why did you get that impression?


Hi PanosGreece, the Semi-Slav with 7.g4 is quite strong. It changes the positional nature of a d4 opening into a more tactical Sicilian-like battle. White will usually castle Queenside (0-0-0) and attack on the Kingside. If you like the Sicilian, you will probably like this line even more.

PanosGreece

semi slav blocks the bishop thats why slav is more playable for me :)

Britishlightning

what about the modern line?

 

TwoMove

 Umm, I prefer the semi-modern line, but against all of these the best tactic is to get better at chess.

Smositional

I like the exchange variation. They will think they equalized already but it's not that easy.

 

kindaspongey

Possibly helpful:

A Strategic Chess Opening Repertoire for White by IM John Watson (2012)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627105428/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen161.pdf

www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/Strategic-Chess-Opening-Repertoire-for-White-A-76p3721.htm

http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/A_Strategic_Chess_Opening_Repertoire_for_White.pdf

Playing 1.d4: The Queen's Gambit by Lars Schandorff (2012)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140626221508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen162.pdf

www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/Playing-1-d4-The-Queens-Gambit-76p3736.htm

http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/Playing1d4QueensGambitexcerpt.pdf

The Kaufman Repertoire for Black & White by GM Larry Kaufman (2012)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140626221508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen162.pdf

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/955.pdf

A practical repertoire with 1.d4 and 2.c4 Volume 1 by Alexei Kornev

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7288.pdf

Colingohmann98

there are a lot of tricks and ideas for white to play against the slav defense. These are too numerous list but you can figure them out by watching online videos and reading books