how to beat the trompowsky?
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1. d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 c5 is one of many options black has on this move and seems to avoid a lot of stuff that causes black to learn a lot of theory.
2. c-5 for black is the way to go!!!.
the tromp starting out by either chris ward or richard palliser is out in june 2008.
2...c5 loses the pawn:
3.dxc
If Black brings out the Queen:
3...Qa5
you get this:
4.Nc3 d6
5.e4 dxe
6.b4
and Black has problems. White has a mate threat Qd8 and is threatening the Black queen. Black only has one move:
6...Qc7
7.Nb5 Qd7
8.Qxd7 Kxd7
9.0-0-0+
and Black looks even worse
Thanks to MJShark for this line:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QNvo0RBugs&feature=related
Play 8...Bxd7, not 8...Kxd7.
duskwalker wrote: Play 8...Bxd7, not 8...Kxd7.
9.Nc#
Patzer24> Refutation of the Trompowsky: 1. d4 e6! 
lol. Only for folks comfortable playing the Black side of the French! The rest have to suffer through the full-blown Trompowsky. ;)
Does anyone have books that cover the Trompowsky? I'm really curious what various books say and recommend after reaching the position:
1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 e6 3.e4 h6 4.Bxf6 Qxf6
Where White controls the center but Black has the bishop pair.
I have three questions:
1. After c5, what do I reply after d5?
2. After c5, what do I reply after dxc5?
3. Why is taking with the g-pawn better and not the e-pawn?
Hope you can answer soon! Thank you very much!
turn wrote:
I have three questions:
1. After c5, what do I reply after d5?
2. After c5, what do I reply after dxc5?
3. Why is taking with the g-pawn better and not the e-pawn?
Hope you can answer soon! Thank you very much!
1.Qb6
2.Na6
3.Captures toward the center, rook can go to g-file to pressure the kingside, bishop can come to a6 to pressure the weak queenside dark squares.
How about this for beating the Trompowsky?
ericmittens wrote:
turn wrote:
I have three questions:
1. After c5, what do I reply after d5?
2. After c5, what do I reply after dxc5?
3. Why is taking with the g-pawn better and not the e-pawn?
Hope you can answer soon! Thank you very much!
1.Qb6
2.Na6
3.Captures toward the center, rook can go to g-file to pressure the kingside, bishop can come to a6 to pressure the weak queenside dark squares.
Can you offer an explanantion on how Qb6 can rectify the situation? How does it help? Does it dispose of the d5 pawn? Or does it create positional weaknesses for White? Or what?
And doesn't Na6 brings Black's Knight to a disadvantageous square? Isn't Ne4 or Qa5+ and then taking the d5 pawn much better? Why is Na6 better?
I hope you can reply soon. Thank you!
RyanMK wrote:
How about this for beating the Trompowsky?
White is better after 5. f3 Nf6 6. e4.
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turn wrote:
ericmittens wrote:
turn wrote:
I have three questions:
1. After c5, what do I reply after d5?
2. After c5, what do I reply after dxc5?
3. Why is taking with the g-pawn better and not the e-pawn?
Hope you can answer soon! Thank you very much!
1.Qb6
2.Na6
3.Captures toward the center, rook can go to g-file to pressure the kingside, bishop can come to a6 to pressure the weak queenside dark squares.
Can you offer an explanantion on how Qb6 can rectify the situation? How does it help? Does it dispose of the d5 pawn? Or does it create positional weaknesses for White? Or what?
And doesn't Na6 brings Black's Knight to a disadvantageous square? Isn't Ne4 or Qa5+ and then taking the d5 pawn much better? Why is Na6 better?
I hope you can reply soon. Thank you!
After 3.d5 Qb6! black attacks the dark squares (specifically b2) which were weakened by white's premature bishop development. Really the whole point of the move 2...c5 in the tromp is to put pressure on white's dark squares, since white will always be weak on that complex.
Ahh I checked my book and after3.dxc5 e6! is the move yes yes...black simply regains the pawn and continues normal development.
would 2. blacks second move is not e-6 folowed by 3. bg-7.iit is c-5 for black gambitting the pawn.that is how to start against the tromp!!