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How to learn the KID without learning much theory?

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Marcus-101

I don't mind learning a little bit of theory, but hopefully not masses of it.. You'll probably think that it's strange for me to choose to play the KID yet I don't want to learn much theory, it's because I want a fairly sharp opening vs. d4 with good chances for a win and really I don't want to have to learn much theory but there are no openings like that. So I've decided to try the KID.

What variations can I play that avoid the highly theoretical mainlines but still give some chances for a kingside pawn storm? I don't mind not doing this every time though. I can play more positionally if I have to. Also I don't mind playing c5 rather than e5 in some variations to avoid theory.

And any views on the book Dangerous Weapons, the KID by Richard Palliser?

Thanks in advance :)

Marcus-101

Thats an expensive book to get new... What lines does it suggest?

adamashasibuan

asuysryaras

Marcus-101

Rafabomb that wasn't really what I was asking. I have already decided that I would like to try the KID for a while and see how it goes

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Just play through some master games, you'll be fine.

Marcus-101

Perhaps in some variations, but I don't think so in the mainlines. Apparently there is theory to move 40 or so in some variations. Also there are so many ways to play against the KID, I will be surprised by what my opponent plays practically every time. I can/will prepare against all the pet lines because they will probably be more common and less theoretical than the main lines. But in the mainlines I need a sideline to play! Does anyone know some sidelines that I could try?? I hope to deviate around move 6-10 so that white doesn't have many options to stop me from playing the sideline

Moyuba

i have the benoni/benko version of that book and it's very good. i picked up a copy on ebay pretty cheap, i imagine you could do the same with that one if you keep your eyes open.

Marcus-101

Okay I will definately look into getting that book, but is it really possible to get by in the KID even if I don't know any theory? White seems to have a wide array of 5th moves -

  • 5.Nf3
  • 5.f3
  • 5.Be2
  • 5.f4
  • 5.h3
  • 5.Bd3
  • 5.Nge2

All of them will give slightly different positions, can I really apply the same few priciples to all of them, and delve into the sharp mainlines without knowing any theory?

Marcus-101
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waffllemaster
Marcus-101 wrote:

Okay I will definately look into getting that book, but is it really possible to get by in the KID even if I don't know any theory? White seems to have a wide array of 5th moves -

5.Nf3 5.f3 5.Be2 5.f4 5.h3 5.Bd3 5.Nge2

All of them will give slightly different positions, can I really apply the same few priciples to all of them, and delve into the sharp mainlines without knowing any theory?

Well, as paulgottlieb says your question amounts to "can I really delve into quantum physics without learning calculus?"

Well... no.  Of course not.  But buying a book on calculus doesn't do much good if you don't know how to multiply and divide...

Not to worry.  Your opponents aren't either.  You're not going for the world title at the moment, so even your results (or maybe I should say especially your results) will benefit from going about it from the beginning.

Marcus-101

How do you know? hehe.. 

Anyway, I will get the book, learn how to multiply and divide, practise what I've learnt a bit, then if it goes well I'll get the 'short-cut guide to calculus' book, followed by, when (if) I have enough time, mastering quantum physics. Shouldn't be too hard :)

Marcus-101

Good idea, maybe I will Wink (try)

Marcus-101

Hmm, I have discovered a slight hindrance to my 5-step plan... I can't find that book for a reasonable price anywhere! Does anyone know any other books that might be easier to get but are still of use to me?

Bill_C

That is actually a great book that pfren references. The ideas presented are very logical and cohesive.

Marcus-101

But I can't get my hands on it!!

Bill_C

I like the way the material is presented without much thoery to drown in. It seems as though it is written more to intermediate and hobby/club players more than expert and master players, thus making it easier to digest than other books on this, especially since modt books tend to focus eventually on one variation exclusively.

Defeinitely better for a player like me than trying to absorb some of Aagaard's books for sure.

Marcus-101

ahah! I've found the book with some help, thanks to hakim2005, my 5-step plan is in motion again. Also that that starting out book looks good, I will look into that once I've finished this book. 

nikre
Marcus-101 wrote:

Hmm, I have discovered a slight hindrance to my 5-step plan... I can't find that book for a reasonable price anywhere! Does anyone know any other books that might be easier to get but are still of use to me?

hey, i found a free pdf version of that book and uploaded here Smile

http://www.chess.com/download/view/mastering-the-kings-indian-defense--pdf

Marcus-101

Thanks :)