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Jul 9, 2021
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#5
theory and practice of the sokolsky is a good book, i think even better than the more well known play 1.b4!
otherwise play around with the engine. It's not that hard to learn. the 1.e5 2.bxb4 lines have a distinctive flavor and require a lot of prep from white to play it at high levels, but the other lines usually roughly resemble each other. For the most part, you just need some prep vs the anti polish lines, like 1.c6 and 2.qb6 or 2.a5. or 1.e5 2.f6 or 1.d5 2.1.qd6. the rest is mostly knowing whether you preper to play early b5 all the time or hold on with a3, whether you are an early d3 or early d4 guy, in some lines whether you prefer g3 to e3 etc.
I am a very well booked 1.b4 player so you can ask me any question on it. My first positive OTB game with a GM was with 1.b4 (a botched win on my end, was a whole piece up but sizzled into a draw after suboptimal play by me in low time).
Jul 9, 2021
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#6
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
theory and practice of the sokolsky is a good book, i think even better than the more well known play 1.b4!
otherwise play around with the engine. It's not that hard to learn. the 1.e5 2.bxb4 lines have a distinctive flavor and require a lot of prep from white to play it at high levels, but the other lines usually roughly resemble each other.
I am a very well booked 1.b4 player so you can ask me any question on it. My first positive OTB game with a GM was with 1.b4 (a botched win on my end, was a whole piece up but sizzled into a draw after suboptimal play by me in low time).
nice! I'll ask you any questions I have any! thanks!
Jul 9, 2021
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#7
well i prefer 1.b3 and i don't know much about this but what i saw when i played against it, white usually go b5 soon and then they try to keep there the pawn and gain by that some spatial predominance at the queen side...
Jul 9, 2021
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#8
FoxWithNekoEars wrote:
well i prefer 1.b3 and i don't know much about this but what i saw when i played against it, white usually go b5 soon and then they try to keep there the pawn and gain by that some spatial predominance at the queen side...
I understand so b5 ideas...
b3 is also a fine opening hope you have success with it
Jul 9, 2021
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#9
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
theory and practice of the sokolsky is a good book, i think even better than the more well known play 1.b4!
otherwise play around with the engine. It's not that hard to learn. the 1.e5 2.bxb4 lines have a distinctive flavor and require a lot of prep from white to play it at high levels, but the other lines usually roughly resemble each other. For the most part, you just need some prep vs the anti polish lines, like 1.c6 and 2.qb6 or 2.a5. or 1.e5 2.f6 or 1.d5 2.1.qd6. the rest is mostly knowing whether you preper to play early b5 all the time or hold on with a3, whether you are an early d3 or early d4 guy, in some lines whether you prefer g3 to e3 etc.
I am a very well booked 1.b4 player so you can ask me any question on it. My first positive OTB game with a GM was with 1.b4 (a botched win on my end, was a whole piece up but sizzled into a draw after suboptimal play by me in low time).
I have a question already lol
what are the positional and strategic plans?
and does white play on the kingside or queenside, or does it depend on the position?
Jul 9, 2021
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#10
Batman2508 wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
theory and practice of the sokolsky is a good book, i think even better than the more well known play 1.b4!
otherwise play around with the engine. It's not that hard to learn. the 1.e5 2.bxb4 lines have a distinctive flavor and require a lot of prep from white to play it at high levels, but the other lines usually roughly resemble each other. For the most part, you just need some prep vs the anti polish lines, like 1.c6 and 2.qb6 or 2.a5. or 1.e5 2.f6 or 1.d5 2.1.qd6. the rest is mostly knowing whether you preper to play early b5 all the time or hold on with a3, whether you are an early d3 or early d4 guy, in some lines whether you prefer g3 to e3 etc.
I am a very well booked 1.b4 player so you can ask me any question on it. My first positive OTB game with a GM was with 1.b4 (a botched win on my end, was a whole piece up but sizzled into a draw after suboptimal play by me in low time).
I have a question already lol
what are the positional and strategic plans?
and does white play on the kingside or queenside, or does it depend on the position?
in most lines, white's play revolves around having a lot of space on the queenside while keeping a good foothold in the center. Sometimes, play takes on a Queen's gambit flavor with d4 although white usually needs to time it right.
the standard set up for most replies to it is roughtly the same b4-bb2-e3-nf3-c4-be2-0-0, with queen, queen's knight and the d pawn placement depending from position to position and personal taste. white's pawn often ends up in b5 fairly early, although restrained lines with a3 also exist.
Jul 9, 2021
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#11
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
theory and practice of the sokolsky is a good book, i think even better than the more well known play 1.b4!
otherwise play around with the engine. It's not that hard to learn. the 1.e5 2.bxb4 lines have a distinctive flavor and require a lot of prep from white to play it at high levels, but the other lines usually roughly resemble each other. For the most part, you just need some prep vs the anti polish lines, like 1.c6 and 2.qb6 or 2.a5. or 1.e5 2.f6 or 1.d5 2.1.qd6. the rest is mostly knowing whether you preper to play early b5 all the time or hold on with a3, whether you are an early d3 or early d4 guy, in some lines whether you prefer g3 to e3 etc.
I am a very well booked 1.b4 player so you can ask me any question on it. My first positive OTB game with a GM was with 1.b4 (a botched win on my end, was a whole piece up but sizzled into a draw after suboptimal play by me in low time).
I have a question already lol
what are the positional and strategic plans?
and does white play on the kingside or queenside, or does it depend on the position?
in most lines, white's play revolves around having a lot of space on the queenside while keeping a good foothold in the center. Sometimes, play takes on a Queen's gambit flavor with d4 although white usually needs to time it right.
the standard set up for most replies to it is roughtly the same b4-bb2-e3-nf3-c4-be2-0-0, with queen, queen's knight and the d pawn placement depending from position to position and personal taste. white's pawn often ends up in b5 fairly early, although restrained lines with a3 also exist.
Ok thanks!
Which line do you prefer? A3 stuff or b5
Jul 9, 2021
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#13
play the 'Bugayev attack'
and play b5 if they play nc6 and then Fianchetto on the kingside
If your opponent plays 2... Nc3 in response to Bb2, you can win their E-pawn after 3. b5.
Jul 9, 2021
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#15
icyboyyy wrote:
why do you want to study the polish of all openings...
I mean
english : ewuuu
ruz lopez : ugh too much theory
I though b4 was perfect especially since I play e4 a lot, could pull it out rarely as a surprise weapon!
Jul 9, 2021
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#16
MyNameIsNotBuddy wrote:
If your opponent plays 2... Nc3 in response to Bb2, you can win their E-pawn after 3. b5.
nc6 you mean?
oh yeah...
Jul 10, 2021
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#19
DaBabysBurner wrote:
Bugayev attack > Giving away the B pawn for no compensation
what do you mean "no compensation"? white gets to keep a central pawn majority in bxb4 lines.
Jul 10, 2021
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#20
Batman2508 wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
Batman2508 wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
theory and practice of the sokolsky is a good book, i think even better than the more well known play 1.b4!
otherwise play around with the engine. It's not that hard to learn. the 1.e5 2.bxb4 lines have a distinctive flavor and require a lot of prep from white to play it at high levels, but the other lines usually roughly resemble each other. For the most part, you just need some prep vs the anti polish lines, like 1.c6 and 2.qb6 or 2.a5. or 1.e5 2.f6 or 1.d5 2.1.qd6. the rest is mostly knowing whether you preper to play early b5 all the time or hold on with a3, whether you are an early d3 or early d4 guy, in some lines whether you prefer g3 to e3 etc.
I am a very well booked 1.b4 player so you can ask me any question on it. My first positive OTB game with a GM was with 1.b4 (a botched win on my end, was a whole piece up but sizzled into a draw after suboptimal play by me in low time).
I have a question already lol
what are the positional and strategic plans?
and does white play on the kingside or queenside, or does it depend on the position?
in most lines, white's play revolves around having a lot of space on the queenside while keeping a good foothold in the center. Sometimes, play takes on a Queen's gambit flavor with d4 although white usually needs to time it right.
the standard set up for most replies to it is roughtly the same b4-bb2-e3-nf3-c4-be2-0-0, with queen, queen's knight and the d pawn placement depending from position to position and personal taste. white's pawn often ends up in b5 fairly early, although restrained lines with a3 also exist.
Ok thanks!
Which line do you prefer? A3 stuff or b5
it depends on the occasion and how much i feel like fighting for a win. b5 is more thematic but in some lines, it can turn to an equalish endgame if black feels like it. a3 keeps the tension longer, and sometimes, if black throws in a c5, you can actually capture it and get an acceptable game.
if black plays a KID or old indian formation, i like to play b5 early (or sometimes, you can even get a row of a4-b4-c4-d4).
vs 1.e5 2.f6 , i usually prefer a3, because of possibilities of bxc5, Bxc5 d4!.
vs QID i prefer a3 unless forced to play b5, they are some endgame lines where both sides swap queen rooks, but the position is nearly symmetrical but the queenside pawns are b5-c4 for white, and b6-c5 for black, and its a dead equal endgame , although white may find the extra space gives him a feather bit more chances.
finally, vs 1.e5 , i do sometimes play 2.a3 (instead of 2.bb2 3.bxe5) , esp if i feel my opponent is booked to the teeth in the bxb4 line, but i mostly play the mainline. 2.b5 here is premature
how to study the polish?
I have a way that im currently using I want to see what are you suggestions to learning this opening