I don't understand openings

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boaki111

Ok, i'm a little bit lost here. I always played chess without getting to the theoretical part. But now that i've discovered the "world" of openings i have some questions. Ok, an opening for white is when white decides to make certain moves to have an advantage like taking the center, etc. 1) But should white play an opening depending on how black plays or its whatever. (I play the london system so much and i dont really care about the black positioning until i finish it).

2) And should black know all the openings so he can play countering the white's. For example if white plays and opening, can black answer with another one or he should follow the white's opening. 

3) Are there black opening when you can play them in whatever position plays white?

Thanks

RivertonKnight

http://www.uschess.org/index.php/February-/Greg-on-Building-an-Opening-Repertoire.html

RivertonKnight
To all players I can recommend the following: simplicity and economy. These are the characteristics of the opening systems of many great masters... A solid opening repertoire fosters self-confidence.
Lajos Portisch

Lajos Portisch

CrockPotLion

Lucky you?! Because attempting to learn complex master opening... A great route to screwing up your game.

RussBell

Chess Openings Resources for Beginners and Beyond...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/openings-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

CrockPotLion

Do gooder.

nklristic
boaki111 wrote:

Ok, i'm a little bit lost here. I always played chess without getting to the theoretical part. But now that i've discovered the "world" of openings i have some questions. Ok, an opening for white is when white decides to make certain moves to have an advantage like taking the center, etc. 1) But should white play an opening depending on how black plays or its whatever. (I play the london system so much and i dont really care about the black positioning until i finish it).

2) And should black know all the openings so he can play countering the white's. For example if white plays and opening, can black answer with another one or he should follow the white's opening. 

3) Are there black opening when you can play them in whatever position plays white?

Thanks

As everyone has said, stick to opening principles. Why? Because learning opening lines is a waste of time for improving players as their opponents will probably play some sidelines anyway. You can find here more on what you should know about opening principles:

https://www.chess.com/blog/nklristic/surviving-the-opening-first-steps-to-chess-improvement

 

ThrillerFan
boaki111 wrote:

Ok, i'm a little bit lost here. I always played chess without getting to the theoretical part. But now that i've discovered the "world" of openings i have some questions. Ok, an opening for white is when white decides to make certain moves to have an advantage like taking the center, etc. 1) But should white play an opening depending on how black plays or its whatever. (I play the london system so much and i dont really care about the black positioning until i finish it).

2) And should black know all the openings so he can play countering the white's. For example if white plays and opening, can black answer with another one or he should follow the white's opening. 

3) Are there black opening when you can play them in whatever position plays white?

Thanks

 

Forget about openings until you are 1800.  The fact that you say you do not care about what Black does proves you are not ready.  The Modern Defense against the London System gives Black a slight advantage, which even London System Guru Cyrus Lakdawala acknowledges himself!

 

White does not decide the opening.  Black does not decide the opening.  Both sides combined decide the opening.

 

You need to know enough to cover all possibilities by the opponent.  For example, as Black, you need 1 main defense to 1.e4 and 1 main defense to 1.d4, and you then have to account for all side lines.

For example, if you take 1.e4, if you play the Sicilian Najdorf, you have to account for all Anti-Sicilians.  If you play the French Winawer, you need something for the Tarrasch, Advance, Exchange, and Kings Indian Attack.  If you play the Black side of the Ruy Lopez, you need something for the Scotch, Italian, Vienna, Kings Gambit, Four Knights, etc.  Lastly, if you go Caro-Kann, you need a line for the main line, Advance, Exchange, Panov, Fantasy Variation, and Two Knights Variation.

 

Same goes for d4.  If you play, say, the Kings Indian, you need something for the London, Torre, Trompowsky, and Veresov.

 

Neither side can force any given opening.  For example, if you play me, you will get 1.e4, 1.Nf3, or 1.c4.  If I have Black, and you play 1.e4, you will get a French from me.  But you face someone else and they may play 1.d4 as White and may counter 1.e4 with the Sicilian.  So there is no "White Opening" or "Black Opening".  The opening is determined by both players and you might decide to play the White side or Black side of any given opening.

 

One thing to keep in mind, and that is no matter what your repertoire looks like, there will always be a minimum of 1 opening that you have to play from both sides.  There is no way to avoid that no matter how your repertoire is set up.  You might even play something screwed up like the Grob, but then, what stops White from playing 1.g4 when you have Black?

For me, I have multiple overlaps.  I play both the White and Black sides of the English, Reti, and French.  You can narrow it to only 1 overlap, but you will never have zero overlaps between White and Black.

jabedabedoo

new here but I studied quite a few Scandinavian Dutch Carokann etc open and closed styles there's a lot on YouTube after a few moves play your opponent dive in his style spot weakness. In the replay games have their charm and could always be played different but moves are of the moment the time pressure counts.