Study the games of Nakamura. Maybe you won't understand the complex concepts but at least see how he plays the opening. If the best player in the entire United States plays the opening, it has to be playable. (I personally like chesstempo.com as database of choice but anything should suffice)
I hate Patzer opening. (early Queen) Best way to defend?
Just play Bg7 and you're fine
So, basically, I stick to this response and be even, and not screwed up?


There's nothing wrong with g6 and Bg7. It's not, "getting your pawns messed up," it's a fianchetto with tempo against the Queen. Normally it takes two moves to do this in the opening. Here you get to play g6 for free because White being silly. When you do this you do have to keep the dark squared Bishop on the Kingside or your position is full of holes. Where you left off analysis in #4 would just be a normal position if White's Knight and Queen were swapped or the Queen were still on d1 and the other Knight on d2 not blocking the c-pawn, but White's misplaced pieces mean Black is equal already. If you can actually get away with swapping off the Bishop like that Black is probably even a tiny bit better. That's fine for Black. You might worry about your g7 Bishop being blocked by your own e-pawn, but look at KID games as well as the Bronstein Variation of the Spainish Game. Black can play for an eventually f5 break. If the center opens the Bishop becomes good. If not, Black can launch a kindside pawn storm and the bad Bishop won't matter if White is checkmated.
However if you don't like to play with a fiancetto 3... Qe7 is also a good move.
2... Nf6 3... Be7 and castle quickly gaining a huge amount of time against the misplaced Queen is also a good plan and a perfectly sound gambit.
There's a lot of good ways to play with Black when White plays the Queen out for no reason.
I hate it when I get my queen captured due to an oversight, lol. I had it happen against my brother.
Also I'm pretty sure c3 where people are playing it in this thread doesn't quite work. Black can play something like d5 and e4. There's a reason why Ne2 is played that position and not c3.
I HATED the g6 move, but totally overlooked the fiancetto bishop move to restore the king pawns. Doing that makes this opening much more palatable. Plus, I have a tempo on white, putting Black in a good position, not a bad one.
Thanks for the feeedback
Also I'm pretty sure c3 where people are playing it in this thread doesn't quite work. Black can play something like d5 and e4. There's a reason why Ne2 is played that position and not c3.
Ne2 is checkmate after Qxf7.
Also I'm pretty sure c3 where people are playing it in this thread doesn't quite work. Black can play something like d5 and e4. There's a reason why Ne2 is played that position and not c3.
Ne2 is checkmate after Qxf7.
This is the position I'm talking about. Ne2 is played to prevent Nd4. Attempting to play c3 instead can be met by a quick d5 with advantage if I'm remembering it right.
Actually I think it's Na5 first, but anyway there is no checkmate and c3 is too slow. Ne2 is the most popular move.
Actually I think it's Na5 first, but anyway there is no checkmate and c3 is too slow. Ne2 is the most popular move.
I got confused. Ignore what I said lol.
Well I wasn't being terribly clear. That's why I put in the diagram, really it only takes a second. Even better would be to make the diagram right and remember the analysis and/or check it before posting at all so I wasn't confused myself about when d5 was good but nobody's perfect. I wanted ot mention it because if the whole c3, d4 plan worked in that position it would be promising for White so it's important to explore why it fails when Black plays accurately.
I hate getting messed up as black by this opening. I want to learn to play it as WHITE.