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TheSampson
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
FrogboyWarpz wrote:

White can still try to play for an advantage.

Scotch is just better tbh

Nothing beats the Vienna tho

this does

pleewo

I feel as if the Italian is severely underrated. Not to mention the gambits and other openings inside it such as the evans or the two knights scotch

The_Artist_of_Chess
FrogboyWarpz wrote:

I feel as if the Italian is severely underrated. Not to mention the gambits and other openings inside it such as the evans or the two knights scotch

It’s decent but only the fried liver, the rest are just garbage compared to the vienna

Yerachmeal
ScrumptiousBricks wrote: Nothing beats the Vienna tho

Welp, this is our 1st disagreement. How is the Vienna better than the Scotch or Ruy Lopez.

pleewo

Sure buddy. Evans Gambit is awesome

TheSampson
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
FrogboyWarpz wrote:

I feel as if the Italian is severely underrated. Not to mention the gambits and other openings inside it such as the evans or the two knights scotch

It’s decent but only the fried liver, the rest are just garbage compared to the vienna

ah yes, garbage

(Good position)

compared to the Vienna Gambit

(Instant equalization)

Btw Bricks is only talking about the Vienna Gambit, that’s the only line Gotham recommends

pleewo

Yes, not to mention the slow Italian and the evans gambit fr fr fr

The_Artist_of_Chess

I don’t want to argue with people who restate stuff I’ve already refuted

pleewo

You’ve never refuted anything

pleewo

You can’t just say something then say it’s refuted. “Ruy Lopez is Trash”

“I said it so it’s refuted.”

You can’t do that. Only Sampson can

Yerachmeal

Black can just turn the Vienna into Petrov's Defense.

TheSampson
FrogboyWarpz wrote:

You can’t just say something then say it’s refuted. “Ruy Lopez is Trash”

“I said it so it’s refuted.”

You can’t do that. Only Sampson can

I second this statement (I said it so it’s true)

Yerachmeal
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:

I don’t want to argue with people who restate stuff I’ve already refuted

You refuted the Ruy Lopez? (I missd the last 20 pages so if you did I'm curious how.)

The_Artist_of_Chess
Yerachmeal wrote:

Black can just turn the Vienna into Petrov's Defense.

lol Nf3 was the wrong move

The_Artist_of_Chess
Yerachmeal wrote:
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:

I don’t want to argue with people who restate stuff I’ve already refuted

You refuted the Ruy Lopez? (I missd the last 20 pages so if you did I'm curious how.)

pleewo

Yes I’m also quite curious on how The Ruy Lopez and the Sicilian were refuted by ScrumptiousBricks. An average Gotham Stan.

pleewo
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
Yerachmeal wrote:
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:

I don’t want to argue with people who restate stuff I’ve already refuted

You refuted the Ruy Lopez? (I missd the last 20 pages so if you did I'm curious how.)

Yes definitely refuted

Yerachmeal

In the position shown for the Vienna (where white stops it from turning into Petroff's Defense) black reaches full equality. And the Jaenisch Gambit does not refute the Ruy Lopez at all.

And White can quickly castle. Or:

Or:

Giving a nice outpost for white's Knight. Ruy Lopez is way better than the Vienna.

pleewo

Good antidote 👍

Yerachmeal

Do you people assume everyone who's in the minority on things is trolling?