I want to play the Kings gambit. Any tips?
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BlackKaweah
Oct 31, 2021
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#41
Reti has a section on the KG in Masters of the Chessboard. Read they and you need never fear for your game.
Oct 31, 2021
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#42
@arnaut10 - I wouldn't say the Vienna was less well known than the KG. I was looking at the other web site's database for non-masters and the Vienna has been played 2.8 million times and the KG about 2.2 million times, so about the same.
The total number of openings played is 177 million, so your opponent is likely to see a KG or a Vienna just barely over 1 in 100 games.
#42
"your opponent is likely to see a KG or a Vienna just barely over 1 in 100 games" Here lies the strength of playing something not mainstream: the opponent fights on unfamiliar ground
Objectively 2 f4 and 2 Nc3 are worse than 2 Nf3.
"The King's Gambit loses by force" - Fischer
http://brooklyn64.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/a-bust-to-the-kings-gambit.pdf
Oct 31, 2021
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#44
Fischer was wrong. Losing by force means that no matter what is done, the game is lost with best play. This isn't even close to being true.
The computer prefers the main line. Objectively, the Fischer defense isn't even the best defense against the KG.
"Of course White can always play differently, in which case he merely loses differently. " - Fischer
You could check out Ian Nepomniachtchi's chessable course "long live the king's gambit" There's certainly a free short & sweet course available which is most likely more theory than you'll ever need.
BlackKaweah wrote:
At our level theory is not needed. Here’s the theory of the KG: everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
Seriously, you need to know the basic ideas: open the f file, and get a strong pawn center with e4 and d4. The KG has good positional strengths, if your opponent declines the gambit, play positionally.
I play KG OTB from time to time, and have a slightly plus score, and know little theory.
If you are lucky, your opponent will go for the Muzio.
Seriously, you need to know the basic ideas: open the f file, and get a strong pawn center with e4 and d4. The KG has good positional strengths, if your opponent declines the gambit, play positionally.
I play KG OTB from time to time, and have a slightly plus score, and know little theory.
If you are lucky, your opponent will go for the Muzio.
Hi. I get that at my level opening theory is less effective but as an individual I am an opening geek. Plus I enjoy studying and have it pay off. I really like to win a great position in the opening so if something happens I have counter-play. Also, I have dislike long methodical games, sooner I can win, the better (My style: Attack, Attack Attack). So playing tricky, less well known openings means that in the commotion they might blunder.
Oct 31, 2021
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#48
Learn the refutation to the old Falkbeer c.g. [it's Totally refuted], learn to play against the new falkbeer. If he plays main lines, be a man and sac. your horse for the attack. [triple muzio gambit? I don't know]. it's just a horse
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Oct 31, 2021
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#49
Defenceking27 wrote:
BlackKaweah wrote:
At our level theory is not needed. Here’s the theory of the KG: everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
Seriously, you need to know the basic ideas: open the f file, and get a strong pawn center with e4 and d4. The KG has good positional strengths, if your opponent declines the gambit, play positionally.
I play KG OTB from time to time, and have a slightly plus score, and know little theory.
If you are lucky, your opponent will go for the Muzio.
Seriously, you need to know the basic ideas: open the f file, and get a strong pawn center with e4 and d4. The KG has good positional strengths, if your opponent declines the gambit, play positionally.
I play KG OTB from time to time, and have a slightly plus score, and know little theory.
If you are lucky, your opponent will go for the Muzio.
Hi. I get that at my level opening theory is less effective but as an individual I am an opening geek. Plus I enjoy studying and have it pay off. I really like to win a great position in the opening so if something happens I have counter-play. Also, I have dislike long methodical games, sooner I can win, the better (My style: Attack, Attack Attack). So playing tricky, less well known openings means that in the commotion they might blunder.
If you enjoy studying openings, then that's what you should do. After all, we play chess for fun, not to pay the bills. ;-)
Nov 1, 2021
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#51
Not to pay the bills? I'll have you know I have $20 in lifetime winnings.
I hope you invested it in Bitcoins long time ago...
Nov 1, 2021
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#54
The f4 move makes the king somewhat vulnerable, so it is important to constantly be on the lookout for tactics involving checks. The opening is a lot of fun, but it's also risky. Good luck!
Nov 1, 2021
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#55
It looks like it may be fun. But I've never been a big fan of fun. That's why I play chess.
Nov 1, 2021
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#56
In 1960 Spassky beat Fischer with the King’s Gambit. Fischer got so mad that he analyzed the position and came up with what he called “a bust to the king’s gambit” that came to be known as the Fischer defense. In the early 80s Spassky played Karpov, the world champion and widely regarded as the greatest positional player in history. Spassky played the king’s gambit, and Karpov replied with the Fischer defense. Who won? Well not the player who used the “bust to the king’s gambit.” It was the other guy.
Nov 1, 2021
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#57
In 2010 Vaselin Topalov was about to play Anand for the world championship. In Mexico City before the championship, he played Judith Polgar and was checkmated in 26 moves.
If anyone thinks that the KG is refuted or that it’s no good, you’re just plain wrong. It’s absolutely a fine opening for practically anyone. Just because it isn’t played much at the highest level of play is absolutely meaningless to any of us.
If anyone thinks that the KG is refuted or that it’s no good, you’re just plain wrong. It’s absolutely a fine opening for practically anyone. Just because it isn’t played much at the highest level of play is absolutely meaningless to any of us.
Nov 1, 2021
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#58
The Fischer "bust to the King's Gambit" is garbage. I played it in a USCF postal game around 1986 or so and my opponent creamed me. The analysis in that little pamphlet is mighty thin and leads you to some vague spots where Black seems to have more to do than is let on.
Nov 1, 2021
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#59
I'm guessing your opponent played against a lot more than you played it. It's actually probably the second best option for black and with best play maintains an advantage for black. By far g5, the main line, is the best try for black, but there is a lot of theory.
Defenceking27 napisał:
I have a Highschool chess final vs the best in my school coming up and have been studying the kings gambit. I know my opponent does not study any theory at all but is very good regardless by playing by instinct. Any tips? (I know it is really advanced but I am confident I am up for it)
Look, KG is a bad "unsound" opening. Why do i call it "unsound"? Because it typically leads to have inferiorior positions for white. Sure not "loses by force" bad, as it is still a draw with best play, yet it is white who needs to fight for that draw. Sometimes very desperatly. Once i learned only some theory ( there is a series of great online lectures on it, unfortunettaly for You, in polish) i started to win most games against KG, using classical 2. g5. All the popular sidelines ( Salvio Gambit, Lolli Gambit, Ghulam Khasim gambit, Algaier gambit) have a refutation, in fact some mainlines too ( Muzio Gambit is officially busted, but the refutation is way too complex to be of practical meaning to chess mortals. ) .
So the tips:
- learn the theory. Lot of it. Start from learning what are the mainlines, as sidelines have easy refutations - and i don't mean easy to find OTB, I mean easy to memorise. I know, i learned at least some of them.
- prepare to lose a lot of games.
- seriously consider playing vienna gambit. You know, it is perfectly possible to just play 2. Nc3, and then close your eyes and play 3.f4. Depending of what black has played on move 2, it may be Kings Gambit by transposition ( eg. 2 ...Nc6, 2 ...Bc5), or vienna gambit proper ( 2. ...Nf6
6). The first option is just a slight improvement over typical KG, the other is a clearly sound line.
- If You stick to KG learn, the quaade gambit line. It is a particulary nasty line, yet for some reason not a well known one. I think it is John Show's recomendation against 2.g5.