If you had to pick ONE b4 or f4 !?

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I don't understand how white is able to mate black quickly in such a drawish pawn structure tho

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i much rather play 1.b4. its much more flexible in pawn structure and you almost always get a nagging space advantage on black's queenside.  They are also more tricks than with 1.f4 which is more of an equalizing move with a specific flair.

i also play 1.b3 and sometimes, i get to transpose to 1..f4 lines, but i only do so sparingly since im never entirely comfortable with the structure.  i always feel the queen knight struggles to find an adequate square, and there is always this nagging d5-d4 threat through half of the middlegame. Even the exciting attacking lines with bd3 , black is just better provided he knows how to avoid the early attack.

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f4

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I would prefer 1.f4 since it controls a center square, and it can transpose into very respectable openings.  The reply 1...e5 is not a worry if you know From's Gambit theory.

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Or Kings Gambit theory.

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f4!!!

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TinkleDink wrote:

Or Kings Gambit theory.

no sir

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The bird better then the polish 

 

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alpha_zer000 schreef:

#f4forlife

Only 11 Bird games on chess.com.

Well:#f4forlife...???????

 

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Riverlandjack wrote:
alpha_zer000 schreef:

#f4forlife

Only 11 Bird games on chess.com.

Well:#f4forlife...???????

 

Rip, exposed

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TinkleDink wrote:

Or Kings Gambit theory.

 

True, but this raises the question of whether it is safer for white to respond to 1.f4 e5 with 2.fxe5 (From's Gambit Accepted) or 2.e4 (the King's Gambit by transposition).  I played the King's Gambit early in my chess career, and often got into trouble.  Later I played Bird's opening for a while, but did not do too well with that either, often struggling for equality.  Although 1.f4 has some surprise value against lower-rated opponents, it seems to throw away white's opening advantage.

With all that said, on the rare occasion that I still play 1.f4, I would rather respond to 1...e5 with 2.fxe5.  I don't like offering gambits, and I hear that the best way to try to refute a gambit is to accept it.

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I play e5 against f4 

And i think black have compertion and this rapid development

 

 

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YES the initiative is for black.But the extra pawn is compensation for white.

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b4 is much better

 

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ada

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rishabh11great wrote:

b4 is much better

 

Said no-one ever

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How is f4 losing exactly

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lol its not but b4 is much better

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Please state why