Bf5?! is not inaccurate in the least sense. In fact, I feel that it gives black a slight edge.
(Note, I did not provide any variations in the game about due to the laziness of my fingers)
Inaccuracy according to Computer Analysis, but i disagree
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what computer are you using? What is your definition of inaccurate? if the variance is very small it is irrlevent. If your using a computer look for large swings in evaluation say of >.5 or 1.0
In d4 openings, you must realize that the bishop often does stay behind the pawn chain for a long time. Eventually, it will come out. Just be patient.
Apr 18, 2012
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#5
Like Tony says, the variance of inaccuracy can be irrelevant.
@ChessisGood, yes, the bishop often stays behind the pawn chain, and to honest I recommend 4...e5, because if dxe5, then Bc5, Be3, Bxe3, fxe3, Qh4, g3, Nxg3, etc. with an edge for black.
First time I ran the computer analysis (a couple of days ago), I had one inaccuracy, one mistake, and one poor move, but they were all justified because I had a working plan. Now I just accept these commentaries over the shoulder. It's just a program running at chess.com. Wanna see 'em? :-) Fully annotated!
Computer analysis is only a tool. You have to do your own analysis, using the analysis/evaluations as a guide.
Apr 18, 2012
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#7
for the lack of any thing else, i use the computer analysis feature given on chess.com for games played on here... it sees some interesting stuff but sometimes i just dont get it...
so thanks so far to everyone for their contribution, yeah its only .3... perhaps barely enough to trigger it for the engine.
the e5 variation looks very interesting as well, completly ripping his kingside open or even more, thanks a lot @ IAMTeHMeRciLess. i still have troubles seeing this kind of tactics.
ok, would anyone care to explain why the evaluation after the two variations the engine gave are like they are? as in, how is the first one better than the second one?
cheers
rick
After 1.d4 Nf6 2.e4 Ne4 Black has more than equalized, which is Black's initial task in the opening. In fact he has gained material (White's central e pawn) for little or negligible compensation. White now not only has lost the initiative of the first move, but must now create counterplay to compensate for the loss of the pawn. And, with his very next move 3.Bc4 he begins creating that counterplay by attacking Black's pawn at f7.
You ask any strong player about a technique labeled, "Kill Counterplay" and they will instantly recognize it and acknowledge that it is an integral part of their arsenal.
If you would like me to continue please let me know
Apr 18, 2012
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#9
hi transpo. thanks to some of the vids on here, im aware of the basic ideas for the opening. as far as the countercounterplay is concerned, were you refering to the fact that by not "properly" (i.e. only with the queen) defending the pawn on d5 i allow him to keep the pressure with his light bishop on the pawn?
i felt with the material advantage and the kinda superficial attack i can use the tempo he lost by moving his bishop twice instead of solidifing my position.
for a long time i struggled with developing all my pieces, perhaps im overadjusting.
but oc, id like to hear more :)
so feel free to continue, be sure i really appriciate it!
cheers
rick
Apr 18, 2012
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#10
@uhohspaghettio
You're right! I liked e5/e6 at first, but then I ran it through Rykba and Houdini, and they both liked Bf5!
RicknRoll wrote:
hi transpo. thanks to some of the vids on here, im aware of the basic ideas for the opening. as far as the countercounterplay is concerned, were you refering to the fact that by not "properly" (i.e. only with the queen) defending the pawn on d5 i allow him to keep the pressure with his light bishop on the pawn?
i felt with the material advantage and the kinda superficial attack i can use the tempo he lost by moving his bishop twice instead of solidifing my position.
for a long time i struggled with developing all my pieces, perhaps im overadjusting.
but oc, id like to hear more :)
so feel free to continue, be sure i really appriciate it!
cheers
rick
Counterplay- When a player as White or Black finds himself down material, time, space or any combination of these he will almost always avoid exchanges and play for complications.
Killing Counterplay- When a player as White or Black finds himself up material, time, space or any combination of these he will almost always play for exchanges and simplification.
I will expand on these in the game you posted. Also, introduce pawn structure and the strategically and tactically correct advance of the pawn mass. But, as always only if you want me to continue. Please let me know.
Apr 19, 2012
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#12
@RickRoll
If Computer Analysis on Chess.com is at 2500, it is still nothing compared to the 3100+ Houdini 2, which preferred Bf5, so yesh, you played the first rate move.
Apr 20, 2012
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#13
yay thanks everyone.
@transpo: yes please, continue. im very interested and appriciate your remarks :)
My issue is move 4. ... Bf5?!.
I though, if i dont developte the bishop now, i will be stuck with kind of a french bishop for the foreseeable future.
Plus the Variation for the so called "Best Move" the Engine give me ends with a position i would evaluate as being worse for Black compared to the Variation it gives after the "Inaccuracy"! (see comments after both variations)
In the actual game (30 minutes standard match btw) he didnt play near optimal allowing me getting an even better position, but thats not the point obv...
cheers
rick