My sincere apologies, FoF. I was not ridiculing you. And if I was encouraging others to ridicule you, then please accept my apologies. I was just saying to the fellow who said that this was a funny thread... that the one by Jengaias was the funniest trash talk. Funny in the sense that it was "funny, but not mean-spirited."
Please forgive me for offending you.
Andy Soltis wrote a book on this very topic "Black to play and win with 1. ... g6: A complete defensive system"
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Well let's see. Do you think he was trying to sell a book?
To speak of a thing, one has to speak of a thing that exists.
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Ok, woah nelly! An off topic post. Great
The Robatsch defense has no less than 12 columns with extensive footnotes in MCO-15 and has been played by many GMs so it must be playable. It is certainly transposable in many of its variations, say into the King's Indian defense or Gruenfeld. It is also covered in the section of the Pirc and Modern defenses.
I think a tournament where black has to play 1...g6 would be interesting. Make it a condition that each pair of players has to play one game as white and the second as black. Some of the old gambits were tested like this in the old fun days. The feuding folk on this forum should all enter it. That might help settle the issue.
Is 1...g6 always playable?
In mathematics there is a principle:
There are no absolutes. And the exception proves the rule.
"In mathematics there is a principle:
There are no absolutes."
FoF, is this statement an absolute principle or absolute statement of Mathematics?
I don't know about 1. ... g6, but I know that 1. e4 is always playable.
"In mathematics there is a principle:
There are no absolutes."
FoF, is this statement an absolute principle or absolute statement of Mathematics?
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Are you on drugs or something? You can't see thru the formality of the statement.
Good grief! It's it's good enough for Garry Kasparov it's good enough for anyone else.
Why don't the mods lock these threads when they turn into garbage??
Wait, just thought of a first move by white that might embarass 2. ...g6. That move is 1. h4 because then we get 2.h5. I once watched a decent player, about 1900 FIDE equivalent, get totally demolished by Brett Lund, a strong local player, who played 1. ...h5. Yes, Brett was black! The player on my team was daft enough to play 2.g3. OK so Brett's a strong player. Incidentally I should be playing against his team, Preston, tomorrow, for Wigan.
Against any other move, obviously 1. ...g6 is fully playable, because, of course, it's the Modern Defence. But it looks a bit daft against 1.h4.
@keisyzrk has said something pretty important here: The reason openings like the Scandinavian and the Modern aren't played much at the highest levels is because White has so many ways to get an advantage.
1.e3 g6 2.h4 h5
FoF: "In mathematics there is a principle:
There are no absolutes."
Me: "FoF, is this statement an absolute principle or absolute statement of Mathematics?"
FoF: "Are you on drugs or something? You can't see thru the formality of the statement."
Me: An intellectually honest rebuttal
FoF's claim (with regards to Mathematics): “There are no absolutes.”
Why FoF's claim is self-refuting: The claim “There are no absolutes” is either absolutely true or it’s not. But, of course, it can’t be absolutely true, since that would create a contradiction: we would have proven the existence of an absolute truth, the claim itself. Since it cannot be absolutely true, we must concede that there are some cases in which the proposition “There are no absolutes” must be false… in which case, we’re back to affirming the existence of an absolute truth.
What we can know: Absolute truth exists. Put another way, the claim “There are absolutes” is absolutely true. Or more directly, FoF's claim that "There are no absolutes" is false.
Peace.
@keisyzrk has said something pretty important here: The reason openings like the Scandinavian and the Modern aren't played much at the highest levels is because White has so many ways to get an advantage.
And of course he is wrong.There is no advanatge for white in Scandinavian according to GM Kotronias.
In fact Kotronias says in his book that looking for an advantage for so long and not finding any, made him respect Scandinavian and even start playing it.
The well known world champion Kotronias. Lol. if white wasn't better and black was equalizing then everyone would play it. Nerd.
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jengaias you are NERD.
FoF: "In mathematics there is a principle:
There are no absolutes."
Me: "FoF, is this statement an absolute principle or absolute statement of Mathematics?"
FoF: "Are you on drugs or something? You can't see thru the formality of the statement."
Me:
FoF's claim (with regards to Mathematics): “There are no absolutes.”
Why FoF's claim is self-refuting: The claim “There are no absolutes” is either absolutely true or it’s not. But, of course, it can’t be absolutely true, since that would create a contradiction: we would have proven the existence of an absolute truth, the claim itself. Since it cannot be absolutely true, we must concede that there are some cases in which the proposition “There are no absolutes” must be false… in which case, we’re back to affirming the existence of an absolute truth.
What we can know: Absolute truth exists. Put another way, the claim “There are absolutes” is absolutely true. Or more directly, FoF's claim that "There are no absolutes" is false.
Peace.
Omg rekt.
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keisyzrk wrote:
Omg rekt.
I CAN HEAR WODDY WOODPECKER CAKLING IS WELL KNOWN WOODPECKER HEH HEHHE HEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHE
@keisyzrk has said something pretty important here: The reason openings like the Scandinavian and the Modern aren't played much at the highest levels is because White has so many ways to get an advantage.
And of course he is wrong.There is no advanatge for white in Scandinavian according to GM Kotronias.
In fact Kotronias says in his book that looking for an advantage for so long and not finding any, made him respect Scandinavian and even start playing it.
The well known world champion Kotronias. Lol. if white wasn't better and black was equalizing then everyone would play it. Nerd.
Kotronias is not good enough for you?You understand chess better than him?
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Vlastimil Hort understands chess better than Kotronias.
@Seniorpatzer
But back to the OP. Is 1.... g6 playable? Depends on your standard of the term "playable"? I don't think it's a guaranteed loss for Black. And with that minimal standard, it certainly is playable.
Ok, whatever the fu*k that means. Actually it says nothing. Which is what you know about chess. NOTHING