Perhaps it is me who is unclear. I don't want anyone to rewrite a hundred years of Spanish theory. I was just curious how Houdini would evalute the mainline of maybe the Chigorin closed Spanish at move 17 so we could compare. If black is even in this line, in the Spanish is white favored by a pawn? A half a pawn? One tenth?
I think that would tell us something about how useful the difference is to the average player. :)
Would you like to recommend an opening that doesn't give black equality?
Also, after 5...Na5 I'd just go 6.d3
The ruy lopez is the most equal opening there is. Scotch depends on the line, QG is just really drawish, Italian I would agree white has advantage if there's two knight's defence, after Bc5, the quiet game, you have to pretty much go to that giocuo pianoissimo crap, which actually means quietist game.
Let me help you out here dummy. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 is called the Giuoco Piano, which is Italian for "Quiet Game". The Ruy Lopez is just cramped, I'd say both sides are equally cramped, and the QG is a little better, but is queenside and doesn't really threaten anything. It actually scores as more drawish than the Ruy Lopez.
Parham pwns, i would of lost this without it.
I'd probably say white, he has 1 piece developed 11 moves into the game. At least black has 3 pieces developed. I'd rather go with black in this situation.
What's funny is in whatupyodog's game that guy was rated 200 points higher than you. If whatupyodog could do that to a 1500 with the Parham, imagine what he could do to you...
that is not the point, he should stop bullying the lower rateds (unless of course they challange him, then destroy them and prove you are better) and move to those his own strenght and slightly above.
Jetfighter, there's no one good on this site.
I was just curious how Houdini would evalute the mainline of maybe the Chigorin closed Spanish at move 17 so we could compare.
Actually it does not understand shit, even at 3-ply. Engines are still very weak when evaluating Ruy or KID tabiyas with some 32 pieces on the board.
No the overwhelming majority of players on this site are around 1100-1400. It's because this sites rating system sucks and it's impossible to go up.
Jetfighter, check this out for people my level. This is what happens after e4 if they play d5 to avoid the parham.
I pwn.
Bankwell. You are cool.
I agree.
So to the purely tactical computer mind the Parham is actually stronger for white then at least after brief analysis? And the Ruy Lopez is better for the way humans are able to think because it is more positional in nature? But maybe objectively they are not so far apart as we like to think. Sacred cows do not go meekly to slaughter. :)
I do not mean I think the Parham is better than the Spanish by the way. I think openings that humans can actually play better are the better ones. :)
That is why I think the London is as good as the Queen's Gambit. :)
Christiansoldier i cant help but notice how popular your game analysises are on youtube, maybe thats because they are so good.
I have to confess I don't understand this forum's fascination with this opening. :(
I was merely trying to help by asking a question. I hope I didn't offend anybody.
You are all dumb as hell