Is anything better for me than the Parham?

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Ben_Dubuque

Ok lets look at taking only one rook

The_Gavinator

see jetfighter here's the thing, I really don't care.

ArchieBunker
The_Gavinator wrote:

see jetfighter here's the thing, I really don't care.

After 40 pages of useless BS and constant defensiveness?  You don't care?  Sorry mate, that ship has sailed.

The_Gavinator

No I don't care about a game where white won with the KG, it wasn't even his game.

I do care that nobody has answered the OP.

I do care that everyone calls the Parham bad, when they can't post a board w/o them losing material.

I do care that everyone here is very ignorant, because they just see the Parham and automatically say "Oh this is bad, moves queen out early", even though they can't fight against it themselves.

Ben_Dubuque

I just showed you a game where material didn't matter, do you want me to show you another, or another, I could show you a couple hundred, including not a single, not a double, but a TRIPLE Queen Sac, or a game where a person saced all Seven of thier non pawn non queen Pieces, and won. ok material doesn't matter as long as you have a way to play

The_Gavinator

Yes but white was obviously winning there. It looked too easy, so I said black because I thought you were trying to be clever. It turns out it just obvious, but that's much different. Black's king was open and under siege, in that case material is less important. If it's move 10 and I have a nicely castled king, and I'm up a few points in material with no hopes of counter attack (like you and christiansoldier's "refutations"), then I'd say material matters.

CHCL

Could you show us the best Parham game ever? I want to see the Parham "in action"

The_Gavinator

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1371171

The_Gavinator

In more seriousness, here's a pretty good game, by Bernard Parham himself:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1411252

pfren

Here is something quite close to the proper play by Black in this stupid opening:

 



CHCL

Beautiful game Mr. pfren! ( from black's point of view)

The_Gavinator

LOL WHAT???? THAT GUY MISSED A FREE PAWN!!!! 10. Bxf7 Kxf7 11. B4!! 2500's HANG PAWNS AGAINST PARHAM!!

pfren

Where do you see a "free pawn"?

10.Bxf7+ Kxf7 11.b4 d6 (11...Rf8 and 11...Kg7 are also fine) and after taking on a5 material is still equal, but White has worsened his position on the queenside. Try not shooting yourself on the foot next time.

viche83

For you the Parham is just fine. It is perfect for slightly ignorant players, players who have a fear to try something else and like to stick and stay what they know, well people who don't care and are satisfied with being below average. Congratulations.

Go with it.

The_Gavinator

Yeah that's pretty good except for the fact it hangs the f6 Bishop.

BTW, whatupyodog just pwned an FM on chesscube with the Parham.

pfren

Hanging the f6 bishop- to what?

I don't get you.

The_Gavinator

10. Bxf7 Kxf7 11. b4! d6 (your recommendation) 12. bxa5 Qxa5 13. Qxf6. Did I miss something? That was in my head, I apologize if I was wrong.

pfren

No, you didn't miss something important. Just 13...Kxf6, but I guess you can pwn Black with the Parham even being a Queen down.

The_Gavinator

Oops, sorry I forgot about the king, I wasn't looking at a board.

13. 0-0 gives white a solidly protected king, whereas black's king isn't looking too hot.

The_Gavinator

Says a child molester...

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