Is the Benko gambit refuted?

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Sea_TurtIe

the benko gambit is refutable above 2500 level id say

white gets alot of activity if black knows nothing

heres an example of black protecting e7

Sea_TurtIe

Qb4 in these lines is a very uncommon move yet its the best in many of these lines

Mazetoskylo
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

this is what the openings101 thing showed

black can do better

This is just a bad position. You are just hoping to somehow trade Queens, but what happens if White plays 15.b3?

Here White played 18.Qe1 and eventually won, but 18.Qe3! Nc8 19.Ne2 Qa6 20.Bc3 is much stronger.

The previous one is just equal- Black has much more active pieces, and that bishop on h4 isn't such a great piece.

Sea_TurtIe

why is that game relevent to this conversation? its obvious that black played that opening inaccurately and ended up losing because of how dumb he played

Mazetoskylo
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

why is that game relevent to this conversation? its obvious that black played that opening inaccurately and ended up losing because of how dumb he played

Up to move 14, it is identical your "good" suggestion at #46.

"its obvious that black played that opening inaccurately" - well, can YOU suggest an improvement for Black after 15.b3?

Or just admit that you don't know what you're talking about... tongue.png

Sea_TurtIe

strangely i dont remember writing that, dont mind this comment i was probally half awake

Sea_TurtIe

play the benko agianst me and we can see how it goes

Sea_TurtIe
Mazetoskylo wrote:
Sea_TurtIe wrote:

why is that game relevent to this conversation? its obvious that black played that opening inaccurately and ended up losing because of how dumb he played

Up to move 14, it is identical your "good" suggestion at #46.

"its obvious that black played that opening inaccurately" - well, can YOU suggest an improvement for Black after 15.b3?

Or just admit that you don't know what you're talking about...

also if you view chess.com on light mode you are a menace