White can avoid the Budapest Gambit with 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 so you have to pair it up with a second black opening against 1. d4.
Is the budapest gambit sound?
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29 days ago
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its okayish. Once the surprise element is taken out you end up with fairly mediocre positions though. Its unusually easy for white to claim an above average edge with simple moves. Personally i prefer , taking and playing for e3, nc3 an nh3-nf4 gives one a very easy edge. White either ends up with a bishop pair or with much better placed pieces. for example:
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nothing wrong with playing it occasionally although it is only decent as a secondary defense and you should find something more reliable as a primary reply to d4. Its similar to the chigorin defense in that white has too many ways to challenge blacks knowledge with critical positions and even if black does his homework, white retains an undeniable edge.
29 days ago
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#4
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
its okayish. Once the surprise element is taken out you end up with fairly mediocre positions though. Its unusually easy for white to claim an above average edge with simple moves. Personally i prefer , taking and playing for e3, nc3 an nh3-nf4 gives one a very easy edge. White either ends up with a bishop pair or with much better placed pieces. for example:
or
nothing wrong with playing it occasionally although it is only decent as a secondary defense and you should find something more reliable as a primary reply to d4. Its similar to the chigorin defense in that white has too many ways to challenge blacks knowledge with critical positions and even if black does his homework, white retains an undeniable edge.
Thanks for the alternative line. The normal line Stockfish likes is 5 f4!? which grabs some extra space and may be more direct at playing for a win against higher rated players than 5 Nc3, which is very safe and has no risk. In the f4 variation, White has to trade one set of bishops after Bb4+ Bd2 (not Nbd2) Bxd2 Qxd2, and the pawn structure looks at bit weird at first for White, but then you see that the pawns are off the color of the remaining bishop, and black's knights have no outposts. The "obvious" move ...Bf5 fails to get control of e4, since White can either play e4 right away, or Rg1 followed by g4 and long castles.
4 e4!? is also an interesting line that leads to a set of unique positions (also with White having an advantage, but it not as solid as 4 e3 followed by 5 f4).
5 Nc3 definitely requires the least amount of study, any player can play that (as long as they respond to ...Bb4 with Bd2) and have a nice game.
I found that using the reti with white was easiest, and using the caro with black is easy too. But ive always kinda struggled against d4 players. I was wondering if learning the budapest gambit would be okay as a counter to the d4 c4 lines? I can handle the london setup fine but this, being the other main setup, i still struggle against it sometimes. Is it, roughly, sound and okay to play? I didnt like the nimzo that much.