Is the Smith-Morra Gambit a good idea for regular play?

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generickplayer

Hello! I am a ~1600 rapid (15 | 10) chess player. I play the Sicilian Taimanov myself, but I often run into people who play 1...c5 against me. I started playing the Smith-Morra Gambit (2.d5) recently, and I think I have been getting good results - most of my losses are due to stupid moves I make after obtaining an advantage. I also think the Smith-Morra also gives me some much-needed practice in tactics and attacking skills.

I've seen a lot of people label the Smith-Morra gambit as a "surprise weapon". Is it wise to use the Smith-Morra gambit as a standard reply against the Sicilian Defense? Is it an unsound opening? Should I just learn to play the standard Open Sicilians?

poucin

At your level (and even mine), u can play almost everything.

Play what u like.

Smith Morra gambit is not refuted : see at high level, most transpose into Alapin with 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 Nf6.

rterhart

I have been playing the Smith-Morra for a while now, both here and OTB. I generally like it because it seems to take most Black players out of their comfort zone.

There is one big drawback for me though: Smith-Morra sacrifices a pawn in exchange for rapid development and the early initiative. This means you have to retain the initiative and attack after the opening. I find it hard to get the timing and the means of attack right, especially if my opponent defends correctly (i.e. makes no obvious blunders). I tend to get into trouble after ill advised attacks based on the idea: I am a pawn down, I have to do something. 

I have bought Marc Esserman's book Mayhem in the Morra. It is certainly worth buying if you want to continue playing the Morra.

Esserman swears it's playable at GM level, and the book has a lot of matches that seem to prove his point. There may be many reasons for you or anyone else to abandon the Morra, but 'not playable at a serious level' is not one of them.

BonTheCat

My personal experience of repertoire books covering opening lines that are relatively rare birds at the highest level is that they have to be taken with a rather large grain of salt, and even more so when it comes to gambits. In my view, John Nunn's recommendation from 1999 in his one volume encyclopedia (the NCO) is still a very good, solid set-up for Black: 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 a6 5.Bc4 e6.

Titled_Patzer

Long live Ken Smith !

Titled_Patzer

Main reason SM is not seen at highest levels is because the Gambit will be declined by Black who responds with the Alapin. (See post #2 from an IM.) Why play Defense for 1/2 the game with no winning chances if White so chooses to regain the pawn by force ?

Morra Gambit is a rating maker when accepted. Long live those who shout it is refuted. White is praying... please, please take the pawn !

aspiringpsychiatrist

My opinion as a 1700 OTB player is this: A 2000 or so player play Queen's Gambit Accepted against me and got crushed. This is off topic, but have a solid line, and a line you play to confuse others, such as the Smith-Morra. But do not play it regularly, because who knows what happens? This is only my opinion, and you can ignore it if it doesn't matter to you. It's fine. You rule your game!happy.png

NMB93

The smith-morra gambit is my favorite line in the sicilian as black, though I am at a much lower level. I might simply be playing against people who think they can be tricky and aren't, but I've always found that it removes white's initiative immediately.

BonTheCat
NMB93 wrote:

The smith-morra gambit is my favorite line in the sicilian as black, though I am at a much lower level. I might simply be playing against people who think they can be tricky and aren't, but I've always found that it removes white's initiative immediately.

It seems to me that anyone playing the Smith-Morra has to be prepared to sacrifice a lot more than just that one pawn in the opening.

saniyat24

I usually did not play the Smith-Morra in Sicilian but after a Smith-Morra tournament, I tried once more with the White, and I have obtained an interesting position where my knights are sitting on d1 and e1 and guarding every threat around from Black...whether I can remain blunder free in the end game is yet to be seen...

BonTheCat

Your knights on d1 and e1? But you're White and you're playing a gambit!

LogoCzar
poucin wrote:

Smith Morra gambit is not refuted

Can you prove it? I'd like to play you in a blitz match (several games), if you are interested. The line I'd like to play as Black is below. If you are interested, please let me know, and feel free to prepare.

1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 Nc6 5.Nf3 e6 6.Bc4 Nge7

poucin

Some have really problems with good manners here...

Why should I play to prove anything?

Would games prove something anyway?

This is not the way.

kindaspongey

"... White undoubtedly has the initiative [after 1 e4 c5 2 d4 cxd4 3 c3 dxc3 4 Nxc3], but is this enough for a pawn? Black's position is flexible and contains no weaknesses. …" - GM Paul van der Sterren (2009)

In 2011, there was the publication of the second edition of The Modern Morra Gambit by IM Hannes Langrock.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5856bd64ff7c50433c3803db/t/5ac7c19588251bda133b2d0d/1523040661431/morra2excerpt.pdf

pfren
logozar έγραψε:
poucin wrote:

Smith Morra gambit is not refuted

Can you prove it? I'd like to play you in a blitz match (several games), if you are interested. The line I'd like to play as Black is below. If you are interested, please let me know, and feel free to prepare.

1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 Nc6 5.Nf3 e6 6.Bc4 Nge7

 

This isn't a line to cause white any particular trouble.

Sure, Black can equalize here (even following the much-quoted game Esserman- Van Wely), but white has fairly adequate compensation for the pawn in all lines, and (more important) Black's position is not that intuitive to handle properly.

Who cares about engine's evaluations when their main lines are a total mess?

 

LogoCzar
poucin wrote:

Some have really problems with good manners here...

Why should I play to prove anything?

Would games prove something anyway?

This is not the way.

I apologize if the way I conveyed my post was rude. I'd like to rephrase what I said.

I disagree with your claim that White is fine there. Games aren't the best way to prove it, though I would like games against strong players in this line to practice the line I found for Black, especially against those who think that White is doing fine there. 

If necessary, I could compensate you for your time in the match (should this be something you are interested in doing), although I assumed that this might not be necessary given how close our current blitz ratings are. If you are interested in playing a White blitz Morra-Match against me and aren't willing to do it for free, please let me know what you think would be a fair rate.

LogoCzar
pfren wrote:
logozar έγραψε:
poucin wrote:

Smith Morra gambit is not refuted

Can you prove it? I'd like to play you in a blitz match (several games), if you are interested. The line I'd like to play as Black is below. If you are interested, please let me know, and feel free to prepare.

1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 Nc6 5.Nf3 e6 6.Bc4 Nge7

This isn't a line to cause white any particular trouble.

Sure, Black can equalize here (even following the much-quoted game Esserman- Van Wely), but white has fairly adequate compensation for the pawn in all lines, and (more important) Black's position is not that intuitive to handle properly.

Who cares about engine's evaluations when their main lines are a total mess?

The Esserman vs. Van Wely game was played in the 6...a6 move order, which Esserman claims is more accurate.

I have an early novelty which I believe changes the objective evaluation of 6...Nge7. I went through Esserman's book cover to cover including virtually all of the variations, tested my idea in engine matches (45 games), deeply analyzed beyond theory, tested my line in matches against strong players (@manudavid, @Yaacovn, @MiroMiljkovic, @anishizback, an individual game against @AlexanderL, etc). I'd still like to practice some more against strong players in the line before I publish, as I'd like to see if there are any relevant White lines that I didn't cover or possibly anything that could overturn my analysis.

nighteyes1234
logozar wrote:

 

I have an early novelty which I believe changes the objective evaluation of 6...Nge7. I went through Esserman's book cover to cover including virtually all of the variations, tested my idea in engine matches (45 games), deeply analyzed beyond theory, tested my line in matches against strong players (@manudavid, @Yaacovn, @MiroMiljkovic, @anishizback, an individual game against @AlexanderL, etc). I'd still like to practice some more against strong players in the line before I publish, as I'd like to see if there are any relevant White lines that I didn't cover or possibly anything that could overturn my analysis.

 

Which engine plays 6 Bc4?

LogoCzar

@nighteyes1234 6.Bc4 is the only critical move according to theory.

poucin
logozar a écrit :

@nighteyes1234 6.Bc4 is the only critical move according to theory.

why not 6.Bf4? This is the move after 5...e6.