Is there a reliable way to transpose from e4 to d4 as black?

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lunixer

I have found that I play far better against d4 than against e4 when I play as black.  Does anybody know of a reliable opening that can transpose to a closed d4-style position?  Thank you.

Spiffe

I think it depends on your preferred Black opening.  If you play the King's Indian, for example, you can get to similar positions by playing the Pirc or Modern Defense.  If you play the Nimzo-Indian or some such, though, the answer is, not really.

The problem with doing so is that all the most common replies to 1.d4 (d5, Nf6, even f5) focus on immediately preventing e4.  If White plays e4 right off the bat, your strategy is bust before you even get to make a move.

This is really the essence of why I feel 1.e4 is the strongest White opening -- you take advantage of your one opportunity to play it unhindered.

bondiggity

I think the caro-kann would be a good option. Its similar to playing a slav. 

Atos

I don't think there is a reliable way, the Pirc or Modern could transpose but not if the White is not co-operating. And since they opened with 1.e4 not with 1.d4, they probably won't.

lunixer

Oh that's good.  I normally play the slav against the QGA/D, but what happens if they don't play 2.d4?

And to the first post- my preferred opening as black when I have to play against e5 is normally a 4 knights or ruy-lopez type opening.  I actually don't pay all that much attention to openings- I don't like memorizing lines, but since I started playing correspondence more and have time to look at resources, I've been trying to develop a repetoire.  

Thanks to both of you.

Sir_Chancealot

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lunixer

Thanks all for your input.  I guess I'll try the caro-kann for a little wile to see how I do.  It looks closest to my style of play.  The Modern and pirc looked a little uncomfortable.  

sbowers3

What do you play against d4? I generally play King's Indian or Gruenfeld. And against e4, I play Sicilian Dragon. I think all three of these defenses are similar, so I am comfortable against either d4 or e4.

Spiffe

He said he plays the Slav defense.  So yeah, the Caro-Kann is going to be your best bet for a "similar" opening -- it won't quite play the same, but at least you're familiar with similar pawn structures.  I used to do the same when I played the Nimzo-Indian against d4, and the French against e4.

lunixer

Yeah.  Thanks all.  I'll try the caro-kann.  I almost always play slav or QGD against d4, so it looks similar enough that I'll be comfortable.

kyska00

The Center-Counter Defence usually has pawn formations similar to the Caro-Kann Defence.

Cutebold

Both are 1.e4 openings, unfortunately. 1.e4 c6 and 1.e4 d5, the Caro-Kann and Scandinavian (Center-Counter), respectively.

Maybe the Franco-Benoni? I play the Slav and Caro-Kann, and I must say that I don't get the same feel from them. The pawn on c4 will change the very nature of the game, and lines do not correspond as easily as one would think.