Is there a way to avoid the french exchange by playing it in a different order?

Like I was thinking of playing the sicilian french, but different with d5. I don't know whether this is good for black or not.

4.Nbd2 = FD Tarrasch variation with 3...c5 - C07 in ECO

4.e5 Nc6 5.c3 = FD Advance Variation - which like the Winawer should be called the Nimzovitch Variation but I guess he already has too many variations named after him as it is LOL!

Make sure you don't mind playing with an isolated QP if you play this line. You'll develop your pieces easily - but you'll be stuck defending an isolated Q-Pawn for a long time.

Sorry I mean I'm black

I fail to see Black's idea after 4.ed5.

Could you elaborate?

Black does not mind playing an IQP if white has committed himself to Nbd2, or c3. Here there arew no such annoyances for him, and 4.ed5 ed5 5.Bb5+ (or just 5.Nc3) leave white with an easy advantage.

So is there a way to play French in a different order just to avoid the exchange variation? I don't particually like the French exchange for black...

Star, are you afraid of an isolated pawn?

I have yet to find a weakness after:

I'm not sure why people fear isolated pawns. Where did the phobia come from? 

I would be glad to have one as it is obviously winning.

I'm saying as black not white...

Thanks for the comments and suggestions

I like closed positions. Lock it in. It'll win for black.

Win for black?

That is French Advanced varitation. It is line...

King, locking in the position is a mistake.

An open position would be winning for white.

I posted computer analysis if you wish to check.

An isolated pawn is not always a mistake. It can be very advantageous in certain situations.

As Pfren has pointed out, taking the pawn gives white a huge advantage.

This is faulty analysis.

Sorry I wasn't so clear what I wanted to avoid...

Does this have a name?

So the Tarrasch Defence in the QGD is bad?

Blessed Star, http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C01_French_Defense_Exchange_Variation_Monte_Carlo_Variation

Looks like the Panov Botvinnik attack of the Caro Kann but with black missing the c pawn, not the e pawn.

So is there a way to avoid this? Like playing in a different move order?

I am happy with the exchange variation except for one line I don't like playing which is http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C01_French_Defense_Exchange_Variation_Monte_Carlo_Variation for black

I fail again to get your point.

It doesn't matter at all if the Tarrasch CGD is good or bad, since the position in mind is not a QGD Tarrasch. There is a BIG difference white having a c-pawn instead of an e-pawn. Here, white has easier development, as well as more direct pressure against the isolani.

@ BlessedStar: Trying to avoid a position that is good for Black does not make much sense. Taking immediately on c4 leads by transposition to an equal variation of Queen's Gambit accepted, but of course Black need not be so collaborative, and wait the f1 bishop to move before taking on c4- say by 4...Nf6.

Transposes into a QGA but the e pawns are missing. That is a very big difference. Plus black has no centre pawns at all. It seems a bit risky for me.

Do you see any e-pawns after 1.d4 d4 2.c4 dc4 3.e3 (normally white plays Nf3 first to avoid what follows) 3...e5 4.Bxc4 ed4 5.ed4?

This is the same structure, but Black has exchanged on c4 a bit prematurely.

You could probably try this plan on the exchange french

By moving Ne7 you can play f6 in case white tries to play bg5.Then you could exchange the light squeared bishops by playing Bf5 and then develop your knight accordingly