Italian Game = Bishop's Opening?

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UnauthorizedUsername011

I just realized that when I play a game like 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4, it appears as Bishop's opening instead of Italian game. Are they the same thing or are they different, and why does chess.com do this?

RuthMary1983

It is same, it keeps the bishop at an active diagonal pointing at weak f7.

Ethan_Brollier
d4iscrazy wrote:
They are different, it is a known bug. The bishop opening is e4 e5 Bc4, while in the Italian it’s e4 e5 nf3 nc6 bc4. The former is slightly more dubious due to Nf6

I’d argue that’s a strength, not a weakness. If your opponent is not a Petroff player, 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. Nf3! wherein you’ll be playing a very solid line of the Petroff that your opponent is not familiar in. However, you also have the option of playing d3, d4, or Nc3, all of which are perfectly viable, strong variations with various ideas and plans.

prasad16

Very nice variation

UnauthorizedUsername011

Thanks!

Zbipro

No

darkunorthodox88
d4iscrazy wrote:
Nf3 leads to a line where black just seems better, the computer agrees but in human terms black has better pieces and is practically playing white.
The other choices are ofc playable, but in general the Bishop’s Opening should have stayed in Philidor’s era. Black gains equality way too easily

the statistics dont agree with you. look at any master database and virtually at all levels bc4 mantains a VERY respectable winning percentage even if you exclude transpositions.

DrSpudnik

They can transpose. It can also transpose into the Urusov Gambit as well. The Bishop's opening is not to be underestimated.