King Indian Attack?
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Dec 21, 2016
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#5
The KIA is a decent opening, but it's not "universal". You can't transpose into it against just anything. For instance, after 1. e4 d5 there is no way to reach KIA positions.
If you start with 1. Nf3 and 2. g3, you can guarantee reaching a KIA position (a Reti-Barcza, to be exact).
Dec 21, 2016
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#6
ok thank you all very much. i don't like it then. Cave Man right. Not for me.
i like Urusov or Bobby Fisher opening better because 90% my opponent play e5 agin me.
If you're going to play the Vienna lines against 1...e5, be wary of the h-pawn push, which is more dangerous than normal. For example, 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 Bc5 4.Bg2 h5!?
Dec 23, 2016
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#8
wow, never to see this Vienna attack. heard about it but never knew what it was. only if black know to play sneeky h pawn push. my opponent would not know this i think. thank you very much. must to investigate this and what happen if there is no h pawn push.
The KIA is a great system to know and can be used against a lot of black defenses if you want to avoid the main lines. It is also a great system for black. If you study the games of Bobby Fischer, he used the King's Indian Defense as black in almost every game he played that was not a Sicilian Defense. He also said the KIA was his favorite as a kid, but as he got older he decided 1. e4 was better.
KID begins with 1.Nf3 but Not against 1.e4-e5
TIVE AGAINST PREPARED PLAYERS...
Either 1.e4 or 1.d4 is THE BEST Repertoire and LIVE UPTO THE CHALLENGE...
The KIA is discussed in Winning Chess Openings by GM Yasser Seirawan.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627132508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen173.pdf
It was part of a seven part series of chess books. Here is a review of three other books in the series:
http://seagaard.dk/review/eng/bo_beginner/ev_winning_chess.asp?KATID=BO&ID=BO-Beginner
For more on the KIA, one could try The King's Indian Attack: Move by Move by Grandmaster Neil McDonald. Perhaps, it would be of interest to look at The Fianchetto Solution by Emmanuel Neiman and Samy Shoker.
https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/9029.pdf
TheGambitKid wrote:
wow, never to see this Vienna attack. ...
There is a chapter about this in Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014).
http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html
https://www.mongoosepress.com/excerpts/OpeningsForAmateurs%20sample.pdf
"... For players with very limited experience, I recommend using openings in which the play can be clarified at an early stage, often with a degree of simplification. To accomplish this safely will take a little study, because you will have to get used to playing wiith open lines for both sides' pieces, but you can't eliminate risk entirely in the opening anyway. ... teachers all over the world suggest that inexperienced players begin with 1 e4. ... You will undoubtedly see the reply 1 ... e5 most often when playing at or near a beginner's level, ... After 2 Nf3, 2 ... Nc6 will occur in the bulk of your games. ... I recommend taking up the classical and instructive move 3 Bc4 at an early stage. Then, against 3 ... Bc5, it's thematic to try to establish the ideal centre by 4 c3 and 5 d4; after that, things can get complicated enough that you need to take a look at some theory and learn the basics; ... Of course, you can also play 1 d4 ... A solid and more-or-less universal set-up is 2 Nf3 and 3 Bf4, followed in most cases by 4 e3, 5 Be2 and 6 0-0. I'd rather see my students fight their way through open positions instead; however, if you're not getting out of the opening alive after 1 e4, this method of playing 1 d4 deserves consideration. ... a commonly suggested 'easy' repertoire for White with 1 Nf3 and the King's indian Attack ... doesn't lead to an open game or one with a clear plan for White. Furthermore, it encourages mechanical play. Similarly, teachers sometimes recommend the Colle System ..., which can also be played too automatically, and usually doesn't lead to an open position. For true beginners, the King's Indian Attack and Colle System have the benefit of offering a safe position that nearly guarantees passage to some kind of playable middlegame; they may be a reasonable alternative if other openings are too intimidating. But having gained even a small amount of experience, you really should switch to more open and less automatic play." - IM John Watson in a section of his 2010 book, Mastering the Chess Openings, Volume 4
The Vienna quite often leads to a KGD after 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Nc6 4.d3 Bc5 5.f4 d6 6.Nf3, when if Black castles too soon on the Kingside, you can play f5 and get a big attack. It's not quite the KID, but you do get the same f-pawn push. Since switching to the Vienna from the Ruy Lopez a few months ago, I've scored 84% (compared to 71% after 2.Nf3). It seems most people on here don't really know how to play against it. But you do need to know a few trappy lines for both sides.
Any good Books on KIA ?
One could try The King's Indian Attack: Move by Move by Grandmaster Neil McDonald. Perhaps, it would be of interest to look at The Fianchetto Solution by Emmanuel Neiman and Samy Shoker.
https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/9029.pdf
Dec 25, 2016
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#15
SAGM001 escribió:
Any good Books on KIA ?
THE KIA move by Move by Richard Palliser is the only book that comes to my mind.
Dec 25, 2016
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#16
I dont know if it was move by move or Starting out. I think it was the latter.
Starting Out: King's Indian Attack by John Emms (2005)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627034051/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen81.pdf
The King's Indian Attack: Move by Move by Neil McDonald (2014)
https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/7277.pdf
Does anyone ever see the KIA car logo and think of the Kings Indian Attack or is it just me ?
For white. I read this is great universal opening against almost all. Is it also good against
1...e5 ? (after 1.e4?)