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Play the Closed Sicilian, most of the time if Black knows what he is doing he is actually not getting mated and White will either play on the center or queenside with some weird Rb1-b4 stuff Spassky taught me in our lessons in 1985.

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Nobody cares about the poor positionally-tactical players...

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I thought 2000 players saying they were positionally tactical was a myth.

Guess Bot'sPawn2016 was right!

Seriously tho, I dont see what is the point of playing 1.e4 if you want to get closed positions or pure positional ones. If you want that you will only get it in the Ruy Lopez. 

Like this makes no logic, lol.

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Okay fck the /positional/tactical shit I just want to learn e4, help me!

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The KIA is a good candidate but are there any special good books on the ruy lopez, one alternative could be that i would play KIA against everything but e5

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THAT IS THE ATTITUDE BUD!

I am not aware of the latest book on the Ruy but I have Neil's McDonald Ruy Lopez move by move and even tho the name sounds Patzerian the format it is pretty good. However I think you will still have to do your work on the Ruy Lopez and look at some more games in each variation on your own.

Karpov's winning with the Ruy Lopez also looks good, I havent read it completely but the preface looks promising llololol.

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The KIA is trash bruh, go with the true 1.e4 flow! 

The Sicilian will really be your problem against 1.e4, it is the only opening in which you actually have to be prepared and be ready to have a book fight, however you also need to have analyzed tons of games with the lines you will play to be ready when they get out of book.

 

If you are lazy and dont want to put the work in just play the English Attack against everything lolol.

If you are not lazy and want to have the real 1.e4 experience steal your mom's credit card and order Negi's 3 books on the Sicilian. 

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To learn the Sicilian you will just have to play 100 blitz games per variation and check lines with databases, books and engines. 

In fact, that should do for every 1.e4 defense.

BOY IF THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD EXPERIENCE.

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If you don't want to learn deep theory, you don't need to buy books. I'm the exact opposite of you, I haven't played 1.d4 since I was a 1200 patzer 3 years ago lol. I've learned everything I know about chess from YouTube, Wikipedia, and studying master level games. The saint louis chess club has a lot of good opening videos and would be my first recommendation. Kingcrusher also has some decent opening vids as well. Wikipedia also has some good info, at least enough to get you started on playing e4. In my experience, the Sicilian, French, and Ruy Lopez are the positions I find myself in the most so I would start there. I would also recommend playing and studying the black side of e4 games. For example, I got a lot better playing the Ruy as white by learning and playing the black side of the lines I usually faced as white (breyer chigorin Marshall gambit etc) and I learned a lot about blacks ideas. Hope this helps, good luck!

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Leo_C wrote:

Okay fck the /positional/tactical shit I just want to learn e4, help me!

 

Do you even read the replies to your own thread?  There are plenty of suggestions, pick some and study.  

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It seems like 95% of the openings I face here on chess.com are e4. Why is that? I just throw the Sicilian back  at 'em and away we go. People say us patzers aren't smart enough to play the Sicilian but go ahead and do it anyway. Pretty soon you ARE smart enough.

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BronsteinPawn wrote:

"... Neil's McDonald Ruy Lopez move by move ... is pretty good. ..."

He has also written The King's Indian Attack Move by Move.

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The problem is the Kings Indian Attack is trash. And not really the e4 we all love.

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Okay, it is not trash, I have played it... in bullet. But it is not like a Sicilian, Caro Kann, French, Pirc, IT IS NOT LIKE THE 1.E4 SHARP BOOK BATTLE WE ALL DAMN LOVE.

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Why not play games over from Fischer? Me, I have not studied openings. Or watch on Youtube games from famous chessplayers?

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He is 2000 FIDE, youtube videos dont cut it for PROS LIKE US.

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Ok Leo, put 100 dollars on my Paypal account and I will send you all of my PREPARATION FILES, WITH ALL OF THE LINES ENDING IN A EDGE FOR WHITE.

OH YEAH BABY.

ALL OF IT CAN BE YOURS. JUST 100 DOLLARS.

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BronsteinPawn wrote:

Okay, it is not trash, I have played it... in bullet. But it is not like a Sicilian, Caro Kann, French, Pirc, IT IS NOT LIKE THE 1.E4 SHARP BOOK BATTLE WE ALL DAMN LOVE.

It has its moments.

Fischer vs Myagmarsuran, Sousse Interzonal, 1967

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044267

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Lol. If we take Fischer games to determine how good openings are then all of chess openings are good.

That game is trash too tho, I preffer the other Kings Indian Attack game where he got a pawn on move 20 and converted like a true chess player, not like a random chess drogadict from the 1800s that likes to sac his queen for mate.

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Pro's? 2000 rating. I bet you don't make money with it.