Looking for a white system

1.e4g5 2.d4Bg7 3.e5c5 4.Bxg5cxd4 5.Qxd4Nc6 6.Qc5Nxe5 7.Nc3d6 8.Qb5+Bd7 9.Qxb7Rb8 10.Qxa7Rxb2 11.Be2Nc6 12.Qe3Qa5

Ive never heard of the Veresov before, Ill see if I can find some stuff on it.

Systems don't really have "main lines"  Veresov attack is an opening.

Maybe I'm not familiar with it.

Lets say they're going for a KID/pirc or dutch, it seems you're going to end up in some variation (or sideline) of those.  After the game I wouldn't say "we played a verasov"

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Everybody says this, and it's starting to annoy me a little.

FIRST you should decide what you are trying to accomplish.

EITHER:

1) Win games and improve your rating (short term),

OR:

2) Increase your understanding of Chess, and improve your playing strength (long term).

It's one or the other, folks... not both.

If you want to win games and up your rating as quickly as possible, then yes... stick to one opening system and learn it well.

If you want to increase your understanding of the game and improve your playing strength... which will raise your rating in the long term, even more than the first method... then you want to get some exposure to ALL SORTS of different types of positions: open, closed, semi-open, balanced, imbalanced, crazy tactics, quiet maneuvering, gambits... you name it.

1.g4d52.Bg2e53.c4Nf64.g5Ne45.cxd5Nxg56.Nc3Bc57.Qb3O-O8.Na4Bb69.Nxb6axb610.h4Ne611.dxe6fxe612.d3Qd413.Be3Qg414.Kf1Nc615.Bh3Qg616.Nf3e417.Rg1

I was out of chess for many years and just now am getting back into it.  For a long time I played the English Opening exclusively in tournaments and got to class C in the USCF but one thing I could never really master and that is defending my king in a fianchettoed position.  I tried the KIA but once again the fianchettoed position was too hard for me to defend.

I am now using the Trompowsky Attack and find it to be very solid so far and it will play against practically against anything Black throws at me.  It is very simple.

1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 Ne4 3.Bf4 c5 4.f3 Qa5 5.c3 Nf6 etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompowsky_Attack

There are a couple of variations but the basic set up is pretty easy to play and you don't have to contend with defending a King in a fianchettoed position.

No, I would say you played a Pirc. Any system can be avoided. But I find that most games with 2.Nc3 have the same basic ideas. I find that a 2.Nc3 Pirc seems to have more in common with the "mainline" veresov than with a "mainline" pirc. At any rate, I don't play the "Veresov system," I play the 2.Nc3 system. I just call it the veresov because that is the "main line."

But yes, I successfully play 2.Nc3 against Caro, French, Pirc, Dutch, even the benoni (although that one doesn't play at ALL like the others). The basic ideas are the same . . . Bg7 and crack the game as wide open as possible, and (my preference) castle queenside and start a kingside pawn storm. 

The actual Veresov is technically the least favorable outcome of 2.Nc3 . . . that's why black responds to it.

And let me post an example of the kind of game I mean when I say a Pirc that plays like a Veresov:

Find 2 openings for e4, and d4, youre comfortable playing.  Study, and understand the ideas, and principles behind those openings.  DO NOT waste your time memorizing openings, lines, etc. Its going to do you absolutely no good to be able to say "I know the <insert opening here> 20 moves deep, if your opponent deviates from the book at move 10. 

1. Idea/principles behind the openings you play - what are you trying to accomplish with the opening?  Control the center? Play against the center? Play on the wings? Piece activity? Quiet play?

2. Pawn structure in those openings - why are the pawns on certain squares?

umm.. pretty sure black picks the opening.. especically with d4. can i pick two openings for both e4 and d4?

and if youre talking about on the black side. i mentioned exactly two for each e4 and d4...

Thanks.

The Veresov is great. Beaten many people over 1800 with it in USCF tournaments. See 9th Eagles post

I havent found many good resourses online on the Veresov. Im not one that wants to spend money on chess books, or memberships for this site, etc. Since this is just a hobby.

There a pdf file I can find somewhere on the Veresov?

I'd try to play it like I was facing a Levitsky.

d5, Nf6 Nbd7, h6, c6, Qb6 or Qa5, and e6 or e5.

Or maybe I should say, I play a Levitsky like I was facing a Veresov but didn't know it until now.

I don't know about that. Honestly, the beauty of the Veresov is that it doesn't require much theory. I have one book (A Ferocious Opening Repertoire) that I really love, but mostly I keep it around for the anti-French lines. With the Veresov, it usually comes down to who is the better player. That said, there are some traps that are nice to know. You can youtube them or join the (unfortunately not very active) Veresov group here.

Here is everything I can think of about the Veresov right now. If it's not in this diagram, you can play without it.

You already saw my pirc line, and the Dutch can just get scary for black. The only opening I've seen so far where I don't get my pretty veresov setup is the benoni.

But seriously, this is probably the BEST opening to play if you're bad at theory. Let me know if you have any other questions about it. I'm a casual player too and I don't know everything, but I did draw a NM from a French that arose out of the Veresov (to be fair, I was also REALLY booked up at the time and it was a casual game).

Here is one of my shortest games. It technically transposes into a French, but played with veresov flair. And it's a great example of how a few inactive moves can lead to immediate destruction.

I played that game completely without opening theory past 2.Nc3. I had never played against 2...Nf6, and it was just stranger for him than it was for me. The point is just to play some games and you'll get a feel for some positions.

Seems interesting. Ill give it some chances with white. See what I get.

It sounds like you're looking for the London system.  It's played on every level all the way to Masters. Kasparov has played it at times. GM Kamsky used the London in the US Championship this year. Pretty simple to learn the basics. Look it up and give it a try...

The London is what I went with. Really simple

Heh. dunno why some people think the London is a good system. Of the many systems, the Tromp seems ta be the best. Although, I'm partial to the Torre, Colle, Stonewall & Curry. Not knocking it, but my experience has shown that such systems are more gimmicky. A surefire equalizer. Or loss. Depending on your ability.