Yeah my friend @magmasalsa always plays f4 against my pirc/modern setups, very annoying. I’d get good positions but then I’d blunder. Smh
How many openings do you play??
Everything except the Sicilian mainline. The occasional dragon.
These lines have some common characteristics but are by no means from the same opening.
These lines have some common characteristics but are by no means from the same opening.
Interesting...
Well, I guess I'm half-right. They lead to the same ideas, hypermodernism etc.
But I guess c4 really makes a difference.
These lines have some common characteristics but are by no means from the same opening.
Interesting...
Well, I guess I'm half-right. They lead to the same ideas, hypermodernism etc.
But I guess c4 really makes a difference.
The second example leads to a completely different type of game.
It's strange how a few minor differences can transform a game entirely...
Btw, the reason they look completely different is because you went a few moves further in the KID.
It's strange how a few minor differences can transform a game entirely...
Btw, the reason they look completely different is because you went a few moves further in the KID.
He did that to show you the difference. If he stopped on like move six you would’ve said “but that’s the same position” and I would’ve made a meme out of it
It's strange how a few minor differences can transform a game entirely...
Btw, the reason they look completely different is because you went a few moves further in the KID.
He did that to show you the difference. If he stopped on like move six you would’ve said “but that’s the same position” and I would’ve made a meme out of it
Go ahead. Pretend I say that, and make a meme.
I can’t because I’m too lazy to google “corporate wants you to find the difference” meme template
Title. I mean, obviously in the beginning it's slightly different. But they're all the same in the late middlegame, right?
Absolutely NOT!
The advance c2-c4 in the King's Indian weakens the d4-square. In the Pirc, White can move the Knight and re-enforce with c3. Black's play is often centered around this weak d4-square. If Black can get a Knight there safely, it's usually lights out for White.
In the Pirc, the Knight on c3 is really the only thing covering e4, which is far more exposed here than in the King's Indian. c2-c4 stops any b7-b5-b4 sheningans, but without c2-c4, the b-pawn is free to attack the Knight and deflect it away from the e4-pawn. Black's play is all about e4 in the Pirc unlike d4 in the King's Indian.
That is just one of MANY differences! The two openings are not similar at all. Just because Black's first few moves are the same doesn't mean jack. White plays too!
Saying the Kings Indian and Pirc are the same is like's saying the Bishop has the same functionality as the Knight.
Let's say I'm an amateur player and only have enough time to really study 1 opening as Black (as I prefer deep study of 1 opening to shallow study of several). I've chosen KID as black's response to d4. If White plays e4 instead, is the Modern or the Pirc better for me to play trying to transpose into KID or a KID-like game? Or is there an even better way to transpose to KID when facing 1.e4? Thanks!
Let's say I'm an amateur player and only have enough time to really study 1 opening as Black (as I prefer deep study of 1 opening to shallow study of several). I've chosen KID as black's response to d4. If White plays e4 instead, is the Modern or the Pirc better for me to play trying to transpose into KID or a KID-like game? Or is there an even better way to transpose to KID when facing 1.e4? Thanks!
If I played KID, then I'd probably play Pirc or Modern against 1. e4.
Let's say I'm an amateur player and only have enough time to really study 1 opening as Black (as I prefer deep study of 1 opening to shallow study of several). I've chosen KID as black's response to d4. If White plays e4 instead, is the Modern or the Pirc better for me to play trying to transpose into KID or a KID-like game? Or is there an even better way to transpose to KID when facing 1.e4? Thanks!
1. g6 can transpose into pretty much any hypermodern opening but if white plays f4, or f3, g4, h4, or just h4 h5, you have to know what you're doing
Thanks. So you would suggest going 1...g6 (Modern'ish) instead of the Pirc's 1...d6 to get a more KID-like game?
Thanks. So you would suggest going 1...g6 (Modern'ish) instead of the Pirc's 1...d6 to get a more KID-like game?
Pirc is a lot less practical in my opinion. If you want to get King's Indian-ish, maybe play the dragon/accelerated dragon? (not really similar besides the Fianchetto and pawn storms but....)
They are similar basically
Once again, they are not similar at all. See post 30.
Just because Black's first couple of moves are the same means nothing. There are 16 White pieces on the board too, and just like how the KID and Pirc are vastly different, so are the other pairs of openings:
The French and the QGD. These 2 are nothing alike! With the French, you question the e4-pawn, look to force it to advance, and attack d4 subsequently. In the QGD, you look to prevent e4 by White, keeping his pawn at e3, and while Black does try to get in c5 or e5, he first relinquishes the d5-pawn for the one on c4 (in the French, d5 is Black's strongpoint), and the tries to free his position with e5 or c5 while preventing e4 by White.
Caro-Kann and Slav - I do not play these so cannot say as much about, but one looming difference is Black often plays ...dxe4 in the Caro and ...dxc4 in the slav. Despite the early c6 and d5 by Black, that is where similarity ends.
KID and Pirc is simply another. White's early moves are different and so therefore, his weaknesses are different - e4 in the Pirc, d4 in the King's Indian.
Yeah my friend @magmasalsa always plays f4 against my pirc/modern setups, very annoying. I’d get good positions but then I’d blunder. Smh
How many openings do you play??