Most dry line against d4?

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Hello, i search for a opening to play for a draw only against higher rated guys and do not want much theory learning.

I think Lasker variation of QGD could be a viable option as its not too complicated, but im not sure if there isnt better

PS: i like the french rubinstein against e4 so anything similar to that would be cool - any suggestions? 

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i was unsure about the lasker because i really respect the QG-exchange variation (in some other QG you have to deal with a isolated pawn which i want to avoid  ), maybe e6 rightaway and go for a bogo-indian?(i want to trade as many pieces as possible)

MaDLife37

 Against 1.d4, there are many ways to play, of course. If you want to play for a draw as Black against 1.d4, I really suggest Queen's Indian for you. It is not so difficult to understand the ideas of the opening and in my opinion, it helps Black a lot to equalize if you play accurately.

 

Here is one of the variation that I played before in my games 

Your plan is just playing d6, Nd7, Nf6, Ne4 etc.. I won some games with this variation as Black, I believe that Black has no problem in this position.

 

If your opponent plays 3.Nc3 instead of 3.Nf3, unfortunately, it's much more difficult for you to play for a draw if we compare Nc3 with Nf3. It's just because, you have only two ways to play(Bb4 and d5). White has a lot of choices after playing any of these two moves.   

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Thats a really cool line thanks madlife!

And what would you prefer if you play a higher rated opponent in say last round of a tournament and need only a draw Bb4 or d5? if he allows the nimzo with Nc3

SmithyQ

The Czech Benoni has little theory as far as I know, and if you play it ten times you'll probably have 95% more experience in it than most White players.  The position is closed, which may or may not be considered 'dry'  to you.

 

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Hey SmithyQ i dont thnk that closed positions are dry, sooner or later the center will be attacked with the f pawns loads of material is on the board you just shift the fireworks to a later stage of the game.

By the way John bartholomew suggests Nge2 not Nf3 "Now if Black plays 11...f5 White can respond with 12.f4! and the first player will be better coordinated when the center explodes. Should Black refrain from...f7-f5 White can go ahead with f2-f4 anyways."

TwoMove

I think you should be well served by the Queens indian which indeed has the potential to produce some of the most tedious positions in chess. You have a terrible problem of what to do against 3Nc3 though, just about every response, like the 3...Bb4 could make the game interesting.

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bobby talparov i want to trade down because i dont fear endgames neither rook and pawn nor king and pawn. You should train those more than openings anyway. Madlife gave a very nice suggestion with the queens indian where the most drawish lines are indeed those where you force a tradedown

 

edit: funny that you mention the most fiercefull attacker alekhine disgarding a trade-down

wonder what he would do if he sees the queenless berlin wall for the first time in his life

 

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yes 2move the task is now to find the most boring line in the nimzo-indian-i want to suck the life out of it lol 

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MaDLife37

Against 3.Nc3, I really suggest Lasker's Defense as Black for you. The main idea of this defense is exchanging some minor pieces in order to fight for an equality. Moreover, it is quite popular at high-level as Black. If you look at the statistics, there are about %65-%70 games which ended in a draw. Your plan is exchanging the minor pieces, playing Nd7, and preparing and e6-e5 pawn advance or b7-b6, Bb7 and playing c6-c5. 

 

 Here is one of the line:

 

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That was my first plan also, but what about whites possiblity to play the queens gambit exchange, it does score very well...

kj63

In this game Capablanca commented that 15...Qf6 killed the game completely. I don't know whether w has any better options than 15.f4

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1460849

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I thought about options against the Nc3 now for a week and realized to my surprise that i never came across the semi-tarrasch. If white tries to steer the game into exchange qg waters you can recapture with the knight,  the mainlines end in 50-70 % draws. What do you think?

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testaaaaa έγραψε:

I thought about options against the Nc3 now for a week and realized to my surprise that i never came across the semi-tarrasch. If white tries to steer the game into exchange qg waters you can recapture with the knight,  the mainlines end in 50-70 % draws. What do you think?

I have study material for you.

https://www.newinchess.com/play-1-d4-d5-2-c4-e6

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So my setup would be 1...Nf6  2...e6  and then depending what black does go for Queens-indian (after Nf3) or Semi-Tarrasch (after Nc3). Mihal Marin says that the Semi-Tarrasch is an ideal complement to the Nimzo-indian and very similar to the Queens-indian.