Certainly both that you mentioned, although there are lines of each that get pretty hairy. Maybe consider the 3...b6 lines against the French Advance, and the Fort Knox against the mainlines.
The Caro-Kann probably qualifies.
But if I were going to pick just one really slow and solid setup against e4, it would probalby be the Philidor with Be7...Re8...Bf8 type lines.
For what purpose? To draw???
Not at all . . . to work on my positional play.
But thanks.
-Ted
i sugest the not because it does any thing important but i sugest either Alikiens deffence or st georges deffence because those do little to tactics also the move b5 is playable this is sometimes caled the polish gambit
yes but then you play 2... a6 forcing his bishop to retreat alowing the time wasted in his attack and retreat to be converted into center control via e5 e6 or Nf6
The Caro-Kann probably qualifies.
Agree.
Or the classical frenches where black doesn't take on e4
Or the classical frenches where black doesn't take on e4
The Classical Frenches where black DOESN'T take on e4? Those are some of the hairiest in the business. Winawer Poison Pawn? Alekhine-Chatard?
When black does take, these lines settle down a lot. That's why I mentioned the Fort Knox up above. Take a look at games where black plays 3...exd 4...Bd7 5...Bc6. It's like a festival of 70 move position-fests.
I meant main line steinitz's and the like =P
but of course, you point out the main problem, the advantage of playing white is that you get to dictate a lot of the tone of the play
I meant main line steinitz's and the like =P
but of course, you point out the main problem, the advantage of playing white is that you get to dictate a lot of the tone of the play
That's what I'd like about the Rubinstein lines if I were in the OP's shoes. It's very hard for white to force the issue without some sort of wacky Nxf7 gambit line. Which while tactical and aggressive, is probably not particularly sound.
Not at all . . . to work on my positional play.
But thanks.
-Ted
I could critique the misguided thinking that caused the question to be asked in the first place, but instead i will just simply give the proper answer:
Fort Knox French, and your book is McDonald How to Beat 1.e4.
yes but then you play 2... a6 forcing his bishop to retreat alowing the time wasted in his attack and retreat to be converted into center control via e5 e6 or Nf6
Not really, White has won a pawn with a developing move, and doesn't really lose a tempo retreating because ..a6 is nothing.
A half decent gambit is 1.e4 e6 2.d4 a6 3.c4 b5. - but sorry that's not what the OP is after.
Either Caro-Kann or French for positional chess. I think Black can control (dictate) things better in the French than the Caro-Kann - if they really want to keep it quiet. Good suggestions already made (Fort Knox).
there are lines in the burn and classical where white preforms a 0-0-0,thus leading to a more tactical game.
Nobody's talking about the Burn and the Classical, except to say that they're bad ideas if black wants to slow down the game. They're talking about 3...dxe4 lines that preclude all that.
The Ruy is irrelevant, since it isn't a choice black gets to make. Good luck slowing the game down with the Ruy if your opponent plays 2.f4.
Against the French, it's very difficult to force a game into tactical waters if black doesn't want to play along.
Never mind. I see from your other posts today that you're just trolling and haven't got a clue what you're talking about. Carry on.
It's okay to prefer solid positions, but you have to understand that you won't always get them, and there's no opening that can guarantee it. As such, I don't think wanting "quiet positional" games is sufficient criteria to select opening repertoire. Besides, no matter what you prepare, your opponents will find ways to deviate.
You got lucky in that game that your opponent was weak, 16 Bxa6+ is very strong for white giving him a passed A pawn that should have put you onto the defensive for the rest of the game fighting for a draw.
You seem simple. Good luck flossing.
guys its only one of those suprise openings i dont play it regularly only as a move if im to tired to think or if i want a fun game
What can be played as black against e4 that would be considered a very quiet/positional defense? Modern? French? Any others?
-Ted