My favorite Trap/Gambit

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Dear chess friends, today I would like to share my favorite trap/gambit for black which is theoretically a bad opening and leads to a bad position with perfect play. However I had lots of great results with this opening in bullet games. Link to the video: https://youtu.be/O1eXXk9aJsU

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Kestony, that was a very nice video! Thanks for posting and thanks for the lesson! I may try it sometime. happy.png

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Thank you for the post.  Enlightening.

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Excellent video! Thanks

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Final position is almost lost for black. And 8.Nd5 instead of Rb3 is considered even better.

So u advocate a trap which appears to get a lost position if opponent plays well? That's a very bad trap then!

Next?

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To @poucin wouldn't it be more helpful for you to state exactly which good moves could have prevented the execution of the trap.

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I can totally see myself falling for that. I wonder, is  dxe5 a good move, or would it be better to push d5?

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Playing for traps is bad for improvement. White can easily get a better position with 5. Bd2 and 6. Nc3 @forked_again

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Nnomi wrote:

Playing for traps is bad for improvement. White can easily get a better position with 5. Bd2 and 6. Nc3 @forked_again

Thanks.  I was talking about move 2.

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forked_again wrote:
Nnomi wrote:

Playing for traps is bad for improvement. White can easily get a better position with 5. Bd2 and 6. Nc3 @forked_again

Thanks.  I was talking about move 2.

I'm pretty sure taking is definitely the best option. You can stay a pawn up if you play the other moves correctly.

This is how I would reply as white. I would definitely prefer to be white here, much better attacking chances! happy.png

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Nnomi wrote:
forked_again wrote:
Nnomi wrote:

Playing for traps is bad for improvement. White can easily get a better position with 5. Bd2 and 6. Nc3 @forked_again

Thanks.  I was talking about move 2.

I'm pretty sure taking is definitely the best option. You can stay a pawn up if you play the other moves correctly.

This is how I would reply as white. I would definitely prefer to be white here, much better attacking chances!

Thanks for that!

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Nnomi wrote:

Playing for traps is bad for improvement. White can easily get a better position with 5. Bd2 and 6. Nc3 @forked_again

Thank you, it is good to hear exactly why.

This Accuracy score should probably be scrapped if traps are bad for improvement, as I got 96% accuracy when I did the fishing pole trap on someone.

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 Traps are a bad practice in general except for when they work, in which case they are brilliant.

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They usually work against beginners who can't see 2 moves ahead.

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ChristianBC wrote:

They usually work against beginners who can't see 2 moves ahead.

Except the OP said it has worked many  times, even on 2100 players.

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Strange... they should do more tactics problems.

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wollyhood a écrit :

To @poucin wouldn't it be more helpful for you to state exactly which good moves could have prevented the execution of the trap.

Well, OP gave a good line for white and i just gave an improvment.

Which was given one move further by Nnomi, though Bxd2 is not forced and maybe developping with e4 is more promising than going for g7 with Qg5.

All this as been discussed many times in chess.com. Englund is just crap.

At least in blitz/bullet, black should try something like 1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 followed by f6 or d6. Still crap but muddy waters.

His "favorite trap/gambit"? I guess from white side, really dishonnest to present this line like this.

Personnally, i like this one, simpler for white than the "refutation" given above :

Who would like to have this pos as black after 6 moves?

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poucin έγραψε:

Final position is almost lost for black. And 8.Nd5 instead of Rb3 is considered even better.

So u advocate a trap which appears to get a lost position if opponent plays well? That's a very bad trap then!

Next?

 

All true. The position is so bad for Black, that white should probably try to enforce it with 4.Bg5! (instead of 4.Bf4).

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thanks very much, it's great to get the precision.

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Thank you for posting this Kestony.  Very informative, can't wait to try it :-)