My off-beat repertoire

darkunorthodox88

if he doesnt play 1.e4 ever, i doubt it will much matter. Besides, if he studies master games to any degree, he will get plenty of exposure anyway. i have a pretty good idea on what the goal of many openings are despite not playing them.

 

i must admit though that playing 1.nc3 gave me exposure to a lot of positions similar enough to 1.e4 and 1.d4.

 

Tiger-Oli

Hey Cagnuts,

just keep on going with what you love to play!

White

1. b4 -- Polish

1. f4, then g3 -- Bird's Leningrad

1. g4 -- Grob

Black

1. … g5 then … h6 -- Borg (sometimes reversed as h6 then g5, see Basman's games)

1. … f5, then g6 -- Dutch Leningrad

1. … b5 (usually after 1. d4) -- Reverse Polish (sometimes a6 followed by b5, per Basman)

1. … b6 -- Owen's (playing much less of this one lately, as it's boring)

 

I like your mixture a lot, and in fact I too have come out with a repertoire like that. I have played the Orang Utan for 25 years now, and it still is a great opening which has earned me many a point. So, man, keep it up!

If the regular opening lines with loads and loads AND loads of theory feel boring, so why play them? The fun is here, from move one, and as long as we can make things tougher for our opponents from the start, why should we not?

Best of luck, and enjoy

Tiger-Oli (FM)

RivertonKnight

I'm a fan of off-beat repertoire choices also, but I would eliminate the Macho Grob, Grob, and Polish from your selection. If you are really trying to achieve 1900+ results OTB, just sayin!

DamonevicSmithlov

I'm sorry but maybe I'm a bit dyslexic. When I first glanced at the title the phrase "off beat" was different somehow. Then after a couple of seconds I was like "oh, mmmkay. Silly me".

darkunorthodox88
RivertonKnight wrote:

I'm a fan of off-beat repertoire choices also, but I would eliminate the Macho Grob, Grob, and Polish from your selection. If you are really trying to achieve 1900+ results OTB, just sayin!

why would you eliminate the polish? its a completely sound opening.

i woudnt recommend the grob, but anyone who has seen masters like basman underestimate it TOO much. giving it a spin every once in a rare while woudnt hurt, esp if you know your opponent is not well booked.

my137thaccount
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
RivertonKnight wrote:

I'm a fan of off-beat repertoire choices also, but I would eliminate the Macho Grob, Grob, and Polish from your selection. If you are really trying to achieve 1900+ results OTB, just sayin!

why would you eliminate the polish? its a completely sound opening.

i woudnt recommend the grob, but anyone who has seen masters like basman underestimate it TOO much. giving it a spin every once in a rare while woudnt hurt, esp if you know your opponent is not well booked.

If you have the skills to have success in the Grob, why not have success in 1.e4 or 1.d4 instead?

RivertonKnight

Sorry I meant to say the Polish Defence. The Polish has its drawbacks as well. It looks threatening, but just off the top Black has 11 first moves in my database that score 50% or above for him. And then 4 more that score in the 46% to 49% range.  The engine at depth 25 gives Black an edge in 10 of 11 moves. And after my research from White's perspective, I decided most of Black's play is to easy to find OTB. Yes specialization makes up for a lot negatives, but your opponents can and probably will come up with their specific line(s) as well. (I havehappy.png) If you like the Polish than specialize, but at the upper tiers it may only result in a draw at best, but that could be said for 1e4 and 1 d4 as well, so you achieve the same result on your playing field, with less work in some respects, but more work in others. My opinion, Respectfully,

my137thaccount

Funny thing is that all the people trying to "surprise" you with the Polish end up blundering material after 1.b4 c5!? 2.bxc5 e5 3.Bb2 Nc6 4.Nf3 Bxc5 5.Nxe5? Bxf2+ 6.Kxf2 Qb6+

darkunorthodox88
my137thaccount wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
RivertonKnight wrote:

I'm a fan of off-beat repertoire choices also, but I would eliminate the Macho Grob, Grob, and Polish from your selection. If you are really trying to achieve 1900+ results OTB, just sayin!

why would you eliminate the polish? its a completely sound opening.

i woudnt recommend the grob, but anyone who has seen masters like basman underestimate it TOO much. giving it a spin every once in a rare while woudnt hurt, esp if you know your opponent is not well booked.

If you have the skills to have success in the Grob, why not have success in 1.e4 or 1.d4 instead?

bc they aint cool

Zugerzwang
Not the best ... that's why it's offbeat ... but playable ... whatever brings you the most fun and success at the level you want to be at.