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johntheChristian

I am very very very very very novice, and I'm looking for advice.

My most common opening looks like this. (I simply had black mirror). Could you tell me:

1. Is it a standard opening or is it just something i do

2. Is it a mistake, are there any glaring weaknesses?

Thanks for any advice you may give.





pvmike

If your white Bc4 is playable but not the best move, 3.Nxe5 is best

dmeng

johntheChristian wrote:

I am very very very very very novice, and I'm looking for advice.

My most common opening looks like this. (I simply had black mirror). Could you tell me:

1. Is it a standard opening or is it just something i do

2. Is it a mistake, are there any glaring weaknesses?

Thanks for any advice you may give.






I don't see any glaring weaknesses, but I would have played 3. ...Nxe4 instead.

However, I find 4. ...Ng4 pretty strong.

dmeng

pvmike wrote:

If your white Bc4 is playable but not the best move, 3.Nxe5 is best


I think he's playing Black.

After 3. Nxe5, Black usually gets the pawn back via 3. ...d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4

chaos_

lolomgwtfBBQ

pvmike

well then if he's playing black then 3...Nxe4 is best, but I would play 3...Nc6 transposing in to the two knights defense 

Evil_Homer

Black IS just a mirror, normally 2....Nc6 would be played, which would require Nc3 to protect the e4 pawn.

dmeng

Evil_Homer wrote:

Black IS just a mirror, normally 2....Nc6 would be played, which would require Nc3 to protect the e4 pawn.


Even though 2. ...Nc6 is the most common move, there is nothing wrong with 2. ...Nf6 (Petroff Defense). I've seen all of the top players in the world employ it before.

pvmike

Evil_Homer wrote:

Black IS just a mirror, normally 2....Nc6 would be played, which would require Nc3 to protect the e4 pawn.


2... Nc6 doesn't attack the e pawn so white doesn't need to defend it

Evil_Homer

Absolutely, but as a beginner, I am just suggesting the main lines to play so that he has a sturdy base from which to build.

He says himself that he is merely mirroring moves and I think he will come across the main line more often than the Russian game.

dmeng

pvmike wrote:

Evil_Homer wrote:

Black IS just a mirror, normally 2....Nc6 would be played, which would require Nc3 to protect the e4 pawn.


2... Nc6 doesn't attack the e pawn so white doesn't need to defend it


Dang, I should have read more into that. Nice catch.

dmeng

Evil_Homer wrote:

Absolutely, but as a beginner, I am just suggesting the main lines to play so that he has a sturdy base from which to build.

He says himself that he is merely mirroring moves and I think he will come across the main line more often than the Russian game.


True, but the point of 2. ...Nc6 is definitely not to attack e4, but to protect e5.

Evil_Homer

dmeng wrote:

Evil_Homer wrote:

Absolutely, but as a beginner, I am just suggesting the main lines to play so that he has a sturdy base from which to build.

He says himself that he is merely mirroring moves and I think he will come across the main line more often than the Russian game.


True, but the point of 2. ...Nc6 is definitely not to attack e4, but to protect e5.


Yeah, apologies, getting ahead on myself on that one alright as I am expecting Nf6.

johntheChristian

thanks for the help, yes i was merely mirroring my (white) moves with black. I do try to adapt as black plays, but generally this is the shape i go for.


I do see the wasted move in 3.Bc4 now thanks :D

morteza_rah

>if 3:knight takes e4 its c42 petrovs defense/italian variation