My refutations of openings (early pawn sacs)

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ajian
RybkaShredder wrote:

And refuting the grunfeld??? That's not going to happen :)

sorry I meant the KID

ajian

but that'll be in another forum

Thunder_Penguin

I don't think gambits will refute all openings...

If you know them, the person can accept/decline the gambit nd get a great position

ajian
DarkKnightLupo wrote:

Can you please share your thaughts on the refutation of the marshall-attack in the ruy lopez :)

It's legit

ajian
Thunder_Penguin wrote:

I don't think gambits will refute all openings...

If you know them, the person can accept/decline the gambit nd get a great position

I'm refuting gambits

ajian

Also there's already a much simpler refutation of the smith-morra



Pilfer

Posting a half dozen moves of theory and then saying, "where's the compensation?" is a pretty far stretch from a refutation.

skakmadurinn

Black plays g5 early in the Froms gambit

ajian
RybkaShredder wrote:

Have fun refuting the KID. It may be possible but it most certainly will not be fun nor easy as black has many resources at his disposal in some of the most terrible looking positions

I've never lost to the KID even against a 2435. (who i beat) However, due to the massive complexity of the main line, I will be wrong


 in some cases.

ajian

RybkaShredder wrote:

7. Nc3 +=

7.Nc3 Bxf3!

ajian

8...Qxd4

tmkroll
ajian wrote:
3random wrote:
ajian wrote:
3random wrote:

Dude black's play in your From's gambit sucked

have anything better?

 



Why g3 and not the simple d3, e3, Nc3, Bd2, and 0-0-0?

g3 is to develop the light square Bishop which otherwise is blocked by the Queen and to avoid the tactic on h2 eg. 6. Qe2 o-o 7. d3 Nc6 8. Nc3 Re7 9. Be2 Bxh2 and Black has at least the pawn back, or else:



TheMushroomDealer

you had a mistake already at move 8

TheMushroomDealer

You cannot refute KID by giving inferior options for Black man

Dark_Falcon
ajian hat geschrieben:
 


There are a lot of openings out there that need to leave for good. I'll start with a few of them.And you know how i do it if you've seen my refutations to e4.

First, some easy ones. pawn sacs.

Blackmar-diemer gambit

 


Danish Gambit

 

From Gambit

 

The smith-morra is too hard to refute so i'm not going to try.If there are anymore pawn sacs you wnat me to refute, i'll post them in the comments.

 




How can someone like you claim for yourself to have the Blackmar-Diemer-Gambit refuted?

You show only weak lines, that are not state of the art in this complicating opening, in your "refutation" you show a weak sideline as the mainline.

Nearly no BDG-Player is playing 4.Bg5 so far, the main line is 4.f3 and then you give 4....exf3 5.Nf3 Bg4. Thats one of many possible 5th moves for black. The experts say that 5...c6 is the most testing move for the BDG.

Here i will show you, how to play the Teichmann-variation right.

Inform yourself in more detail next time, before you start to post such a crap..

TheMushroomDealer

@ajian it's ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE to refute the KID. Are you out of your mind? It is one of the best ways of meeting d4. It's same like you would say that 1..c5 would be a loosing move. It's time to wake up. You even said before that you are trying to refute gambits but to me it seems that you are trying to "refute" openings that piss you of because you loose against them. And don't lie that you would never had lost against the KID - nobody here belives such a thing.  

badger_song

This is just another Troll thread...

TheMushroomDealer

@1random nope only 3.Bc4?! has been retuted. 3.Nf3 remains as a possible move

Oraoradeki

Dark_Falcon has said the exact things I wanted to say, but I am guessing it is going to be ignored because most of the people in the forum prefers trolling to analyzing openings.

TheMushroomDealer