Need a sound opening to tackle French Defense

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chamo2074

But honestly at this level every bluff works if well prepared

poucin

Qe2 is more played than u think.

The modern way to play it being 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Qe2.

Qe2 is more effective when d5 played, that's why Qe2 at this point.

Then u can add many +25000 games...

fenrissaga

I would try the Schlechter variation

 

chamo2074

But I think OP said sound variation

fenrissaga
chamo2074 a écrit :

But I think OP said sound variation

There is surely something that makes you say that it's unsound ,could you say more please

chamo2074

I was replying to pucin

fenrissaga

ok ,i saw several games won by Ivanchuk with Qe2

 

poucin
chamo2074 a écrit :

I was replying to pucin

Indeed, it is clear u know much better than me and strong GMs like Morozevitch (who played d3/Qe2 stuff several times with success) what is sound or not.

chamo2074

lol I am just resaying this vid: https://www.chess.com/lessons/why-simon-loves-the-french/odds-and-ends

adityasaxena4

French Defence : Steiner Variation 

adityasaxena4

just e4 e6 c4 The Steiner Variation of the French Defence tackles the French Defence while avoiding any fray in the center !

pfren

The Exchange French is fully playable for both sides. All you need to know is how to create imbalances. Equal? Sure, just show me a major French variation which is not equal.

 

pfren
adityasaxena4 wrote:

just e4 e6 c4 The Steiner Variation of the French Defence tackles the French Defence while avoiding any fray in the center !

 

How does this "tackles the French defense"?

Mostly after 2...d5 3. exd5 exd5 (3...Nf6 which transposes to the Icelandic gambit isn't bad at all, either) white plays 4.d4 and transposes to the Miesis variation of the French exchange, whicch is not very accurate (white should wait for something like ...Bd6 before launching c2-c4). 

There are also crappy gambit lines involving an early Qb3 which are countered quite easily.

adityasaxena4
pfren wrote:
adityasaxena4 wrote:

just e4 e6 c4 The Steiner Variation of the French Defence tackles the French Defence while avoiding any fray in the center !

 

How does this "tackles the French defense"?

Mostly after 2...d5 3. exd5 exd5 (3...Nf6 which transposes to the Icelandic gambit isn't bad at all, either) white plays 4.d4 and transposes to the Miesis variation of the French exchange, whicch is not very accurate (white should wait for something like ...Bd6 before launching c2-c4). 

There are also crappy gambit lines involving an early Qb3 which are countered quite easily.

e4 e6 c4 d5 cxd5 exd5 e5 is how it tackles the French Defence!

ThrillerFan
NayWasTaken wrote:

The French is miserable, I suggest going solid and sound with the Tarrasch Variation. The small advantage you get is typically enough that you have an extra pawn or two in the endgame, though it depends on your style.


https://pawnbreak.com/the-french-tarrasch/

 

How do you figure you have an extra pawn or two in the endgame?  Asinine!

 

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5! =

adityasaxena4
pfren wrote:
adityasaxena4 wrote:

just e4 e6 c4 The Steiner Variation of the French Defence tackles the French Defence while avoiding any fray in the center !

 

How does this "tackles the French defense"?

Mostly after 2...d5 3. exd5 exd5 (3...Nf6 which transposes to the Icelandic gambit isn't bad at all, either) white plays 4.d4 and transposes to the Miesis variation of the French exchange, whicch is not very accurate (white should wait for something like ...Bd6 before launching c2-c4). 

There are also crappy gambit lines involving an early Qb3 which are countered quite easily.

Because in that one you're actually supposed to do it the other way around take with the c-pawn then push e5 and if Nc6 then d4!

ThrillerFan
pfren wrote:

The Exchange French is fully playable for both sides. All you need to know is how to create imbalances. Equal? Sure, just show me a major French variation which is not equal.

 

 

 

This one's not equal, which is why when I play the Poisoned Pawn, I take on c3 a move earlier and play 12...d4

 

 

 

ThrillerFan
adityasaxena4 wrote:
pfren wrote:
adityasaxena4 wrote:

just e4 e6 c4 The Steiner Variation of the French Defence tackles the French Defence while avoiding any fray in the center !

 

How does this "tackles the French defense"?

Mostly after 2...d5 3. exd5 exd5 (3...Nf6 which transposes to the Icelandic gambit isn't bad at all, either) white plays 4.d4 and transposes to the Miesis variation of the French exchange, whicch is not very accurate (white should wait for something like ...Bd6 before launching c2-c4). 

There are also crappy gambit lines involving an early Qb3 which are countered quite easily.

Because in that one you're actually supposed to do it the other way around take with the c-pawn then push e5 and if Nc6 then d4!

 

Only a moron would play 1.e4 e6 2.c4?! d5 3.cxd5 exd5 4.e5?! Nc6? (Yes, a BAD move!)

 

4...c5! And Black is already slightly better.  If Black does not know this, why is he playing the French?  Other than the pure exchange variation and the open Tarrasch, the French is all about attacking the d4-square!

pfren
adityasaxena4 wrote:

Because in that one you're actually supposed to do it the other way around take with the c-pawn then push e5 and if Nc6 then d4!

 

Ah yes, it makes sense.

This way of playing is so stupid, that I wonder why haven't I thought  about it before...  tongue.png

 

What makes you think that Black will allow d2-d4 and not play ...c5 or even ...d4?

Colin20G

How about the KIA?

 

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