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This is awful. It doesn't even deserve a name.
Apr 2, 2008
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#3
KillaBeez wrote: This is awful. It doesn't even deserve a name.
Just for copping that kind of attitude, I think we should call it the KillaBeez opening! 
post a game you've played with it at least. As of Right now I'm unconvinced because to boot the knight you will have to play f3, which blocks a crucial square for the kingside knight. In addition, if white playes Qe2, black can play d5. If white puts out a piece in order to trade the black knight such as Bd3, black can again play d5.
Apr 2, 2008
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#5
Its already an opening: "The omega gambit", used by former Hawaii state champ Clyde Nakamura, who, I believe is friends with Eric Schiller. His site and the article for this opening is: http://www.chessville.com/UCO/CN/OmegaGambitPart1.htm
the opening is silly really, but thats what Clyde "the evil one" is all about. Now that he's retired, these openings show up more in his games, and, I must say, they are quite entertaining.
PerfectGent wrote:
lots of games in chessbase online dbase with overwhelming wins for black
highest rated white to play it was
de firmian, N 2560 draw with fredorowicz, J
The question is: what were the time controls? In really quick games, they all play things they know are nonsense. If you want me to take it further, In 1 minute games, I know a guy who is 2400 who starts most of his games with 1.a2 and 2.h2, and wins against even stronger players. In 3 minutes such outrageous things may not work at that level ,but this strange opening may have the same characteristics in 3 minute games (maybe even in 5 minute games...not sure) in their levels.
If you say that it has been played in longer time controls and not for pure blitz value, that would have some merit.
Personally, I don't believe this opening is sound at all for white. I'll look at it a bit though
the opening didnt work kilter,the white loss one pawn and the development can not be sucessfull,when the black knight taken the e4 pawn ,the black no only control the center but also make a fantastic development and process the attack theory fast and easly.
After some analysis and going over several games from online databases (superficially, so far, I'll go over it in more depth soon), I don't see white even gaining an interesting initiative for the pawn. It's only one more tempo. Doesn't look like even close to enough for the pawn.
grolich wrote: PerfectGent wrote:
lots of games in chessbase online dbase with overwhelming wins for black
highest rated white to play it was
de firmian, N 2560 draw with fredorowicz, J
The question is: what were the time controls? In really quick games, they all play things they know are nonsense. If you want me to take it further, In 1 minute games, I know a guy who is 2400 who starts most of his games with 1.a2 and 2.h2, and wins against even stronger players. In 3 minutes such outrageous things may not work at that level ,but this strange opening may have the same characteristics in 3 minute games (maybe even in 5 minute games...not sure) in their levels.
If you say that it has been played in longer time controls and not for pure blitz value, that would have some merit.
Personally, I don't believe this opening is sound at all for white. I'll look at it a bit though
Is 1 a2 and 2 h2 even possible?
Reb wrote: grolich wrote: PerfectGent wrote:
lots of games in chessbase online dbase with overwhelming wins for black
highest rated white to play it was
de firmian, N 2560 draw with fredorowicz, J
The question is: what were the time controls? In really quick games, they all play things they know are nonsense. If you want me to take it further, In 1 minute games, I know a guy who is 2400 who starts most of his games with 1.a2 and 2.h2, and wins against even stronger players. In 3 minutes such outrageous things may not work at that level ,but this strange opening may have the same characteristics in 3 minute games (maybe even in 5 minute games...not sure) in their levels.
If you say that it has been played in longer time controls and not for pure blitz value, that would have some merit.
Personally, I don't believe this opening is sound at all for white. I'll look at it a bit though
Is 1 a2 and 2 h2 even possible?
heh 1.a4 and 2.h4 of course:)
This is a similar dubious gambit, which I actually won with in a game with a sort of King's Indian setup. I propose it be named the ambrose gambit.
Ummm . . I mean black resigns.
Apr 3, 2008
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#13
If you want to play something like this pull out the BDG. 1.d4 Nf6 2. Nc3 d5 3. e4... While opinions wax hot and cold on this gambit its better than the line you've got listed.
The point of a gambit is to sacrifice a piece (nearly always a pawn) to gain a positional advantage...some gambits I just don't understand (the only reason someone would win with this gambit is because that outplayed their opponent later on in the game, causing your center to be damaged without any compensation is pointless)
I was wondering why no books or internet articles talk about 1.d4 Nf6 2.e4... I would consider this as a gambit.