They key in that position is on move 12 should be Ba3 rather than Bb2. Running a deep analysis, that position would favor white, and if black responds with O-O-O, the engine gives almost +1 for white after c4
New Refutation Trap For the Blackburne-Shilling Gambit
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Apr 28, 2024
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#223
Black has the possibility of going all in, after bd6, with a kingside attack, but I don't think it works. Here's one possible line (I didn't analyze this too deeply):
Countless funny attempts to refute an already refuted opening.
Mazetoskylo wrote:
Countless funny attempts to refute an already refuted opening.
That's a really insightful comment from a weak player.
ItsHegelTime wrote:
Black has the possibility of going all in, after bd6, with a kingside attack, but I don't think it works. Here's one possible line (I didn't analyze this too deeply):
I agree with you. Black has the opportunities for attacking white and not the other way round. In the previous lines we looked at with ... 0-0-0 for black, white white is still trying to untangle, black, whose R is still on h8, plays ...h5 and ...g5 etc. Black should win.
Apr 29, 2024
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#227
Although it's an interesting idea, there are a lot of chances for white to gain an advantage. In the O-O-O lines, I definitely think white has a solid advantage and attacking chances, and as I previously analyzed, it's quite sharp with chances leaning towards white. It's interesting, but in the 9. Qe3 lines, from some very deep analyses, I found that the computer always starts to favor white in every line
BlackLawliet wrote:
They key in that position is on move 12 should be Ba3 rather than Bb2. Running a deep analysis, that position would favor white, and if black responds with O-O-O, the engine gives almost +1 for white after c4
Yes well done, I agree that Ba3 is the move. I actually didn't play Bb2 thinking it was the best move. It was just representative of any developing move in that position and it was open to question. Having looked at Ba3 for the first time, I agree it's superior and the position is viable for white.
I like it so much that it seems necessary to question black's moves. 8. ... Qg6 is definitely incorrect. Black needs to develop and not waste a move later with ... f6. I agree with @ItsHegelTime that something like 8. ...Bd6 must be played.
May 5, 2024
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#230
Yeah, although Qf6 is technically the best, I do think a human would not have a great time playing that. However after Bd6, black has no advantage and white can get the knight out with moves like Na3 and followed by Nc4, or just d3. After that it seems to be a pretty standard game with white even having a slight advantage
I'd play Qf6. I'm happy with queens off or on.
Mar 18, 2025
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#232
This is brilliant. I just played it. My opponent did not fall for the mating trap, but in the end I am up material and development.
Mar 18, 2025
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#233
BlackLawliet wrote:
Thanks for running through these lines. After reviewing them, I think you have an interesting game after 9. Qe3:
If you trade queens, we run into the uphill battle for white you guys laid out. However this offers some sharp lines with some traps. I even found some hidden brilliancy lines which was exciting! The main line goes as follows:
I really like this as white actually. The computer gives it even, but white has a lot of tricky and aggressive lines. There's also another really sneaky and beautiful trap in this position that I'll go over if anyone would like
11. Re1 ?? Bxb1 wins a knight
This is very interesting! I love it. Of course, white could just take the knight and black is simply worse in the position, but b4 poses an interesting countergambit idea which is something I truly adore. I actually play the Blackburne Shilling a lot as black as well, but it works quite well, but this may also be because I am at a low Elo level. Anyways, thanks!
Yes, there's no doubt that white cannot swap queens.
We might get this kind of thing. Not my cup of tea as white. I think I'd probably prefer black still.