Not really, in the Bayonet Attack Nh5 is the stronger than Nd7.
In the Taimanov lines Nh5 is imposible, and Nd7 is better than Ne8 because it covers c5 from there, making it harder for White to play c5.
In this case Nh5 is probably better but it is a matter of taste between Nh5 and Ne8 while Nd7 in my opinion is inferior as I have stated in other posts.
You should also take in consideration that from e8 the knight may in some day go to g7 and e6 or to c7 and to e6, so again, I think 9...Ne8 is probably better than Nd7 in this position (I agree with you that in other lines Nd7 is thematic and the main move, for example in the Taimanov lines where the knight does good on covering c5.)
At less than master level it hardly matters which knight move you make because the inevitable mistakes that follow will outweigh any difference in their strength.
But if you really want to figure out which is stronger you cannot decide between Ne8 and Nd7 by general reasoning like this. You have to look at actual lines of play. That is doubly true of an opening like the King's Indian which is very tactical and combative. And not just one or two master games from four decades ago. The King's Indian has moved on a lot since Fischer's time and many lines that he played are now thought to be "not the best".
Of course Fischer could play the same "inferior" lines against 99.9999% (a well-considered percentage) of chess.com's members and still win easily. Heck, if he were still alive he could start with 1. e4 and 2. a4 and he'd still beat most of us.
Not really, in the Bayonet Attack Nh5 is the stronger than Nd7.
In the Taimanov lines Nh5 is imposible, and Nd7 is better than Ne8 because it covers c5 from there, making it harder for White to play c5.
In this case Nh5 is probably better but it is a matter of taste between Nh5 and Ne8 while Nd7 in my opinion is inferior as I have stated in other posts.
Is that not what I said? In many or most lines Nd7 is the right move. Of course there are exceptions.
Where Nd7 is correct it is true that holding up c5 is one of the ideas behind it. But it is not strong "because" it covers c5. If it is strong then it is because the specific variations arising from that exact position work out okay for Black.
Did you even took time to read the thread? And all of my posts?
1- I dont care if it doesnt matter because someone will hang his queen next move, I want to play the best moves, that way of thinking doesnt go with me.
2- How do you know I havent looked at actual lines of play? Heck, Im a patzer but I know what Im talking about. Nd7 is inferior than Nh5 in the Bayonet, and Ne8 in the Taimanov lines gives White other options like 10.f4 plus again, it doenst cover c5.
For example in the Bayonet after Nd7 White can simply play a4 and keep with his queenside expansion which seems problematic for Black, meanwhile after Nh5 White has or at least usually does something to combat the threat of Nf4.
3- I know the Kings Indian has moved a lot, but there are not a lot of games with Bd2, and the recent ones favor Nh5.
Not really, in the Bayonet Attack Nh5 is the stronger than Nd7.
In the Taimanov lines Nh5 is imposible, and Nd7 is better than Ne8 because it covers c5 from there, making it harder for White to play c5.
In this case Nh5 is probably better but it is a matter of taste between Nh5 and Ne8 while Nd7 in my opinion is inferior as I have stated in other posts.
Is that not what I said? In many or most lines Nd7 is the right move. Of course there are exceptions.
Where Nd7 is correct it is true that holding up c5 is one of the ideas behind it. But it is not strong "because" it covers c5. If it is strong then it is because the specific variations arising from that exact position work out okay for Black.
And they work out okay because White cant play c5 so quickly. Are you trolling?
Perhaps the only downside from Nh5 is the fact that White can usually play g3 which is probably way better than Rc1.
So now Black can't play neither Nf4 or gxf5 which seems to giv better chances to White but nothing crazy.
Black has many ways to fight for e4, here is how not to play as Black.
The slight positional disadvantage sounds like a nice story Merovwig, but there is no way to take advantage of it.
Or is it? Can you prove white can make use of the e4 square and get an advantage?
And even then, Ne8 would be better as I said in other posts, so I disagree with ThrillerFan and your +1.
Well your topic question is "what do you prefer?". I told you my taste in this matter and you disagreed.
It's basically like asking "Do you prefer ketchup or mayonaise?", then someone answers "ketchup" and you reply "I disagree, mayonaise is far better". Well, okay! ;)
The "nice story" is not mine since I have been taught so through GM books and video lessons (opening up the g-file and controling the center with the possibility to push one or the other pawn according to the position with pros & cons).
It does not mean that ...Nh5 and taking back the f5-pawn with a piece is bad, or "not so good". It's just... what I prefer, as you asked.
I find that usually the knight on f5 and a knight comming to f4 give Black enough activity to compensate for the slight weakening of e4.
For example, look at the mainlien given by the MCO which I dont think is the mainline or was the mainline as it seems dangerous for White:
What would happen if white played 12.g4 instead of c5? Please help.
I guess 12...Nd4 with no fear of 13.gxh5 since there would be 13...Nxe2+ 14.Nxe2 Rxf3 (if 14.Qxe2 Bg4, the f3-knight is pinned and attacked twice) and you get back the piece. Plus White's castle is awful.
On 13...Nxd4, if White plays 14.Nxd4 then after 14...exd4 White's c3 knight is also attacked and there is an ugly hole in White's castle.
(need to be confirmed)
What would happen if white played 12.g4 instead of c5? Please help.
I guess 12...Nd4 with no fear of 13.gxh5 since there would be 13...Nxe2+ 14.Nxe2 Rxf3 (if 14.Qxe2 Bg4, the f3-knight is pinned and attacked twice) and you get back the piece. Plus White's castle is awful.
On 13...Nxd4, if White plays 14.Nxd4 then after 14...exd4 White's c3 knight is also attacked and there is an ugly hole in White's castle.
(need to be confirmed)
In many (most?) lines of the King's Indian Nf6-d7 is stronger than either Nh5 or Ne8.