Obscure Kings Indian????

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TheChessAnalyst

I was looking at one of my recent games - and it appears that I have ran into (perhaps an obscure line in the Kings Indian. I was black and the game went:

My questions are two fold. Is the 5.....Ne5 correct, I really think the bishop is stuck. 

#2 is this the Kings Indian, and if so can anyone give me an over view of the stratigic ideas I should be looking for.

Fritz says the position is about even, and I think I have good control of the black squares and should probably be looking to take advantage of that - perhaps trading off a Knight for the Black Bishop would be something to look for. I also think that Black should be looking at Queenside Play.

White has space advantage and perhaps is slightly ahead in development - white is probably trying to work the white squares and is also thinking Queenside.

 

I went on to lose this game - not because I feel this is a bad position, my opponient is 200+ Elo higher than me and outplayed me with tactics around move 19 - I was a minor peice down and could not defend the position any longer.

Any help would be great.

notmtwain
TheChessAnalyst wrote:

I was looking at one of my recent games - and it appears that I have ran into (perhaps an obscure line in the Kings Indian. I was black and the game went:

 

My questions are two fold. Is the 5.....Ne5 correct, I really think the bishop is stuck. 

#2 is this the Kings Indian, and if so can anyone give me an over view of the stratigic ideas I should be looking for.

Fritz says the position is about even, and I think I have good control of the black squares and should probably be looking to take advantage of that - perhaps trading off a Knight for the Black Bishop would be something to look for. I also think that Black should be looking at Queenside Play.

White has space advantage and perhaps is slightly ahead in development - white is probably trying to work the white squares and is also thinking Queenside.

 

I went on to lose this game - not because I feel this is a bad position, my opponient is 200+ Elo higher than me and outplayed me with tactics around move 19 - I was a minor peice down and could not defend the position any longer.

Any help would be great.

Using the chessbase free database, I see 227 games where strong players including 2500 players went for 5..Ne5. Nobody got their bishop stuck. Many of them moved their bishops back to g7 before developing their knights.

72 players, including some who were also very strong played 5..Nb8.

I don't think you lost the game in the opening.

TheChessAnalyst
notmtwain wrote:
TheChessAnalyst wrote:

I was looking at one of my recent games - and it appears that I have ran into (perhaps an obscure line in the Kings Indian. I was black and the game went:

 

My questions are two fold. Is the 5.....Ne5 correct, I really think the bishop is stuck. 

#2 is this the Kings Indian, and if so can anyone give me an over view of the stratigic ideas I should be looking for.

Fritz says the position is about even, and I think I have good control of the black squares and should probably be looking to take advantage of that - perhaps trading off a Knight for the Black Bishop would be something to look for. I also think that Black should be looking at Queenside Play.

White has space advantage and perhaps is slightly ahead in development - white is probably trying to work the white squares and is also thinking Queenside.

 

I went on to lose this game - not because I feel this is a bad position, my opponient is 200+ Elo higher than me and outplayed me with tactics around move 19 - I was a minor peice down and could not defend the position any longer.

Any help would be great.

Using the chessbase free database, I see 227 games where strong players including 2500 players went for 5..Ne5. Nobody got their bishop stuck. Many of them moved their bishops back to g7 before developing their knights.

72 players, including some who were also very strong played 5..Nb8.

I don't think you lost the game in the opening.

Thanks, so it sounds as if Ne5 is correct..... where can I find this free chessbase database. Do you have a link, I have an account with chessgames.com but they do not show nearly that many games with this position.

 

Thanks again.

notmtwain
TheChessAnalyst wrote:
notmtwain wrote:
TheChessAnalyst wrote:

I was looking at one of my recent games - and it appears that I have ran into (perhaps an obscure line in the Kings Indian. I was black and the game went:

 

My questions are two fold. Is the 5.....Ne5 correct, I really think the bishop is stuck. 

#2 is this the Kings Indian, and if so can anyone give me an over view of the stratigic ideas I should be looking for.

Fritz says the position is about even, and I think I have good control of the black squares and should probably be looking to take advantage of that - perhaps trading off a Knight for the Black Bishop would be something to look for. I also think that Black should be looking at Queenside Play.

White has space advantage and perhaps is slightly ahead in development - white is probably trying to work the white squares and is also thinking Queenside.

 

I went on to lose this game - not because I feel this is a bad position, my opponient is 200+ Elo higher than me and outplayed me with tactics around move 19 - I was a minor peice down and could not defend the position any longer.

Any help would be great.

Using the chessbase free database, I see 227 games where strong players including 2500 players went for 5..Ne5. Nobody got their bishop stuck. Many of them moved their bishops back to g7 before developing their knights.

72 players, including some who were also very strong played 5..Nb8.

I don't think you lost the game in the opening.

Thanks, so it sounds as if Ne5 is correct..... where can I find this free chessbase database. Do you have a link, I have an account with chessgames.com but they do not show nearly that many games with this position.

 

Thanks again.

Chessbase free database