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I'm looking to see what openings you guys use because I need help with mine

You play The Hnerf too?

You might try to look up: "easy chess openings", Dev0n. I recommend you try playing all gambits. That's what I'm going to try out for both white and black.

Learn the following openings:

The Ruy Lopez or Spanish Game

The Giuoco Piano or Italian Game

The Four Knights Opening

The Fried Liver Attack

The Queen's Gambit Accepted

The Queen's Gambit Declined

The Slav

Just learn the first 5 moves and some of the basic ideas.

1. e4 is one of the easiest moves to remember. for dev0n's sake, it's called the king's pawn opening.

Here is a line which is often recommended to beginners.

It is called the London System.

http://www.chess.com/blog/X_PLAYER_J_X/london-system

I hate the London system and every "system" I have tried. 

Just pick two openings with white and 2 replies with black and learn the shit out of them until you know a ton of lines.  

What does you hating the London System have to do with the fact it is recommended to beginners?

Maybe the reason you hate the London System is because you never learned it right.

Have you even read my article on the London System?

X Player @

What makes you think , that the London system is for beginners? The simple development ? The quiet procedure were tense between pieces is minimal? ...and after the first 12 moves? then what? What's the plan for the beginner X man? How he will understand imbalances or when to play what?

I have no appetite to kick your ass again X player but the London system is not for beginners. The London middlegame is for experienced players who understands the pawn structures and when to transpose a static position to a dynamic. Unfortunately your articles does not offer such a information, only stories with fairy tales for little children to read for them just before they sleep.

X player, I don't know how old you are but you need to take your life a little bit more serious.

Writing articles about thinks you don't understand will not make you a chess writer and you certainly not gonna win a Nobel trophy.

You can fool some beginners with your bullshit and your self of course with all this X graphics and presentation but it's not the truth and you know it.

I love you X man😍 besides your amateur bullshit, you have fun, entertain the forum people and I admire your passion to live your fake dream. Peace.

I use the bongcloud attack. My winrate with it is 100% against GMs.

I'm sure your article is a very informative one, x player. But there was no way I could keep reading it with all your spelling errors. Plus your misunderstanding of there they're and their.

"For players with very limited experience, I recommend using openings in which the play can be clarified at an early stage, often with a degree of simplification. ... you will have to get used to playing with open lines for both sides' pieces ... teachers all over the world suggest that inexperienced players begin with 1 e4. ... Of course, you can also play 1 d4 ... A solid and more-or-less universal set-up is 2 Nf3 and 3 Bf4, followed in most cases by 4 e3, 5 Be2 and 6 0-0. I'd rather see my students fight their way through open positions instead; however, if you're not getting out of the opening alive after 1 e4, this method of playing 1 d4 deserves consideration. ... a commonly suggested 'easy' repertoire for White with 1 Nf3 and the King's indian Attack ... doesn't lead to an open game or one with a clear plan for White. Furthermore, it encourages mechanical play. Similarly, teachers sometimes recommend the Colle System ..., which can also be played too automatically, and usually doesn't lead to an open position. For true beginners, the King's Indian Attack and Colle System have the benefit of offering a safe position that nearly guarantees passage to some kind of playable middlegame; they may be a reasonable alternative if other openings are too intimidating. But having gained even a small amount of experience, you really should switch to more open and less automatic play." - IM John Watson in a section of his 2010 book, Mastering the Chess Openings Vol. 4

Perhaps one could make a good start on learning about openings in general by reading the 2006 book, Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms  https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf , the 2014 book, Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html , and/or the 2010 book, Starting Out: Open Games by GM Glenn Flear https://web.archive.org/web/20140626232452/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen134.pdf .

unfortunately, since this thread starts with an insult.  I'm sure it will be very active.

but, really this question is asked quite often on chess.com.  (ylblai2 answer is spot on, of course. Really good advice from a strong gm)....

but really, (nearly) any opening is good for us patzers.  the key is to start learning chess- tackling tactics and understanding what wins a chess game.

-- so instead of just asking for an opening- what about saying what openings you've tried. and what happens to you?

In response to your text in Red.

The London System and the Italian Game are recommended for beginners.

Title players have said this statement. I can show proof of such statements.

It is because they teach important key elements which many beginners lack.

• Development

Development may sound easy and simple yet beginners struggle with this.

Is not that simple for beginners. They have to get in the habit of using all there pieces.

• Castling/Getting king safety

Alot of beginners do not do this.

I have seen some think keeping the king in the center every game is cool.

• Cordination

Keeping your pieces safe. Not having them all over the board undefended so they can get picked off by your opponent with a random tactic!

• Attacking the center/contesting the center.

Alot of beginners do not know what to do. Teaching them the importance of the center is very huge.

This is why the London System and the Italian Game are recommended to beginners.

They teach areas many beginners struggle in. It is perfect respresentation of following chess principles.

The London system is easy to get into.

The London system do not require alot of theory.

The London system follows general chess principles.

You would know this if you knew anything about chess Bg5.

However, the problem with you is you always want to be right about everything. When you are often wrong.

The things I have said here are what have been said by Title players.

Do your research.

In response to your text in Purple.

The London System is an opening line.

After the 12 moves or what ever you said. The game is no longer in the opening phase is it?

No! 

Which means you are now in the middle game.

Where you now can get a book, article, videos, etc all of which can help you with middle game planning.

You can also use the themes of your opening line to help you come up with ideas on how to play the middle game.

Which is why I shared some themes in my article and showed a video of a National master explaining some idea's.

I will also add more videos when I find some more nice London System ones.

All which can help a person understand the London System better.

The opening is used to get a reasonable middle game. Once you are in the middlegame. You need to be able to do middle game planning.

You can also use your opening to help figure out some of your themes in the middle game.

In chess you have to try and get reasonable positions in the Opening, Middle Game, and End Game.

If you do not get reasonable positions there is a good chance you will lose your chess game.

Which is why people get information for all 3 areas of the game.

My blogs and articles were to help people try and understand the London system. Which can help them get a reasonable opening position to set them on there way to the middle game and to give them themes and tips for later on in the game.

I did not cover middle game planning or king and pawn end games.

Obviously if they are looking for middle game planning and king and pawn endgames they went to the wrong blog to read.

My title is trying to understanding the London system.

The London System is an opening.

In response to your text in Blue.

I never said I wanted to be a chess writer. I am bad in spelling and my grammar is terrible.

I write my articles for fun.

They help me reinforce information I know. I even learn from doing that process.

I never wanted a Nobel trophy or prize.

I simply wanted to express my thoughts on paper. I figured it would save more tree's if I wrote it online on a blog and not on paper lol.

Some people like writing there thoughts in journals Bg5. I like writing my thoughts online in a blog.

No one is forcing you to write my article Bg5.

You can simply ignore it.

Thank you for your constructive criticism. I will try to improve.

Opening Principles:

Control the center

Develop toward the center

Castle

Connect your rooks

You are now ready to get to a playable middlegame. Yes...it is that easy.

X Player @

The London opening its a system! Every opening system it's Forbidden for beginners because does not provide instructive informations. I don't care where you read those opinions from Masters and who are they but we can't mix what is easy for a beginner to play with what is useful! If you think that the London System it's useful for beginners to learn chess I give up! The problem is yours.

In fact the London system as a philosophy has nothing to do with the Italian and sub variations. It's totally two different thinks.

Beginners should learn development with a cause of ideas, not conservative structures that leads to unknown middlegames for them. The opening idea it's not separated part from the Middlegame, it's a guide! A chain.

Castling : You don't even know that the London system is the only opening were White plays with 75% chances to leave the king in the center, for strategic reasons of course. Tell me X player how you will excuse that to a beginner? You are gonna show to him Gata Kamsky games? Hah?

Please man. I like you. You are a good person with innocent intentions to help people understand things but you are overreacting again and again. I understand that you need to write those posts so to learn by your self but it's not go like this! You make harm to your self and to people who trust you reading your info. Please find a way to improve your habit. It's not about me or what I believe for you. It's for YOU.

In all seriousness, alot posts in this thread goes off in a tangent. Tactics is the key priority to all beginners, they won't even touch 1700s if they don't have a strong tactical base. Chess up to 2000 is pretty much 99% tactics. Hence ALL chess trainers recommend 1.e4 for their opening. Play the Italian game or scotch gambit is probably the besy way to start imo.