Openings for black?

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MonkeyingAround

Is the quality of my advice dependent upon my "level" (of what, who knows?)?

pfren
ChessSlimShady wrote:

Are you serious? Bad opening=loss. 

Agreed on both: I am serious, and you are at a loss.

Anyway, if you want to study openings, just do it. Don't complain though if you see your play not improving at all...

einstein99

I always play c5 to e4 and usually play accellerated dragon hoping I can get the sicilian break(D5) in

robthepek
MonkeyingAround wrote:
robthepek wrote:

Haha, It doesn't matter. I'm 1500 and I still don't study openings. All you need to know below 1300 is tactics. Once I get to 1700 I will start serious opening prep, but until then I will work on my endgame tactics and positional skills. But back to you. How many of your games are determined by how much theory you know? Probably none. Your games are decided by blunders and better positional knowledge. Openings are a waste of time at your level. Play 1.g3 and you'll be fine.

I agree with this post until you say play 1.g3. Follow opening principles, strong centre etc.. Even as Black I don't think he should be playing hypermodern openings, as White it is just silly. You're giving Black better than equality on move one, he is now basically White (unless you reply to 1...e5 with c4 and 1...d4 with Nf3).

+1

My point was that opening principles matter. Not the moves, and that even if you play something non-standard, the game is still decided by tactics. But I didn't phrase this correctly. I agree with Monkeyingaround. Follow the opening principles and you'll be fine.

ChessSlimShady
robthepek wrote:
MonkeyingAround wrote:
robthepek wrote:

Haha, It doesn't matter. I'm 1500 and I still don't study openings. All you need to know below 1300 is tactics. Once I get to 1700 I will start serious opening prep, but until then I will work on my endgame tactics and positional skills. But back to you. How many of your games are determined by how much theory you know? Probably none. Your games are decided by blunders and better positional knowledge. Openings are a waste of time at your level. Play 1.g3 and you'll be fine.

I agree with this post until you say play 1.g3. Follow opening principles, strong centre etc.. Even as Black I don't think he should be playing hypermodern openings, as White it is just silly. You're giving Black better than equality on move one, he is now basically White (unless you reply to 1...e5 with c4 and 1...d4 with Nf3).

+1

My point was that opening principles matter. Not the moves, and that even if you play something non-standard, the game is still decided by tactics. But I didn't phrase this correctly. I agree with Monkeyingaround. Follow the opening principles and you'll be fine.

a lot of my games are decided by theory. by the way thats how you win games is better positional knowledge. there is no level where you should start openings. screw that. my question was not should i play openings it was what openings should i play for black. you would be pretty dang pissed if someone gave you answers like that. someone said it once, it was stupid enough then, dont say it 20 freakin times. give a goddang straight answer or just stop posting on the forum. got it?

MonkeyingAround

Okay, play King's pawn and Queen's pawn games, they will help you to imrpove the most.

pfren

ChessSlimDaddy, with that mentality you will become a good player the day pigs fly. Honestly. I have trained two (junior) world champions, and a few GM's and WGM's, and I'm pretty sure people with your attitude towards chess are hopeless.

Regards.

einstein99

Caro khan (1e4c6) is fun too,even though I havnt played it for a while.

ChessSlimShady
MonkeyingAround wrote:

Okay, play King's pawn and Queen's pawn games, they will help you to imrpove the most.

see isnt that a much better response

ChessSlimShady
pfren wrote:

ChessSlimDaddy, with that mentality you will become a good player the day pigs fly. Honestly. I have trained two (junior) world champions, and a few GM's and WGM's, and I'm pretty sure people with your attitude towards chess are hopeless.

Regards.

I was coached by someone higher rated than you. And he showed me an opening, i got tied for 30th best in the country in my section. just stop being a jerk okay you think you know everything and you don't

MonkeyingAround

LOL, what? Tell me what you to hear and I'll happily oblige!

lolhaiderlol
ChessSlimShady wrote:
pfren wrote:

ChessSlimDaddy, with that mentality you will become a good player the day pigs fly. Honestly. I have trained two (junior) world champions, and a few GM's and WGM's, and I'm pretty sure people with your attitude towards chess are hopeless.

Regards.

I was coached by someone higher rated than you. And he showed me an opening, i got tied for 30th best in the country in my section. just stop being a jerk okay you think you know everything and you don't

I got 29th best in the country in my section, the U200. I'm pretty awesome, right?

ChessSlimShady
lolhaiderlol wrote:
ChessSlimShady wrote:
pfren wrote:

ChessSlimDaddy, with that mentality you will become a good player the day pigs fly. Honestly. I have trained two (junior) world champions, and a few GM's and WGM's, and I'm pretty sure people with your attitude towards chess are hopeless.

Regards.

I was coached by someone higher rated than you. And he showed me an opening, i got tied for 30th best in the country in my section. just stop being a jerk okay you think you know everything and you don't

I got 29th best in the country in my section, the U200. I'm pretty awesome, right?

u1200. i was playing against people twice my experience. and how did i win? by using a good opening, no duy. pmfren, someone of your title should know some strong openings for black, am i right?

lolhaiderlol
ChessSlimShady wrote:
lolhaiderlol wrote:
ChessSlimShady wrote:
pfren wrote:

ChessSlimDaddy, with that mentality you will become a good player the day pigs fly. Honestly. I have trained two (junior) world champions, and a few GM's and WGM's, and I'm pretty sure people with your attitude towards chess are hopeless.

Regards.

I was coached by someone higher rated than you. And he showed me an opening, i got tied for 30th best in the country in my section. just stop being a jerk okay you think you know everything and you don't

I got 29th best in the country in my section, the U200. I'm pretty awesome, right?

u1200. i was playing against people twice my experience. and how did i win? by using a good opening, no duy. pmfren, someone of your title should know some strong openings for black, am i right?

Your coach should quit chess if he's teaching you the way you're making it sound.

ChessSlimShady
MonkeyingAround wrote:

Is the quality of my advice dependent upon my "level" (of what, who knows?)?

thats my point. everyone is saying stupid things that are irrelevant to the question, just because of my 'level'. So does that mean that because of their level, their advice is any better?

ChessSlimShady
MonkeyingAround wrote:

LOL, what? Tell me what you to hear and I'll happily oblige!

If you read the forum topic, then you would know i wanted to hear some good openings for black.

MonkeyingAround
ChessSlimShady wrote:
MonkeyingAround wrote:

Is the quality of my advice dependent upon my "level" (of what, who knows?)?

thats my point. everyone is saying stupid things that are irrelevant to the question, just because of my 'level'. So does that mean that because of their level, their advice is any better?

So, you're saying that the point behind you asking me what my "level" was, was to provoke a confused reply from me so that you had a reason to post this BS? I take everything back, you're levels ahead of me. I can't keep up with your genius...

MonkeyingAround

I told you. Best for you is to follow principles, second best is to play King's pawn and Queen's pawn games. Do you want a third best solution?

ChessSlimShady
MonkeyingAround wrote:
ChessSlimShady wrote:
MonkeyingAround wrote:

Is the quality of my advice dependent upon my "level" (of what, who knows?)?

thats my point. everyone is saying stupid things that are irrelevant to the question, just because of my 'level'. So does that mean that because of their level, their advice is any better?

So, you're saying that the point behind you asking me what my "level" was, was to provoke a confused reply from me so that you had a reason to post this BS? I take everything back, you're levels ahead of me. I can't keep up with your genius...

No, not at all. People, including you, are saying that i shouldn't play openings because of my level (in chess, general knowledge, who knows what). So it was a rhetorical question, asking how your level (of chess, i guess) is higher than mine, therefore giving you the right to tell me that because of my level, i shouldn't play openings. If you're not going to asnwer my question dont post.

MonkeyingAround

I put it into google translate but it didn't find a matching language. Useless thing. I think I picked up something about you thinking that you are on par with me but I must be mistaken...