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FVC123

Has anyone ever played the Colle System. I have tried it a few times but it is hard to develope fully if my opponent makes a move which does not allow me to develope it fully.

Absurd
I've used the Colle system and its cousin the Stonewall. In the Colle the idea is to play defensively at first and then quickly transition to offense after an e4 break. Before then, you'll probably be a bit hard-pressed to develop some pieces.
Patzer24
Yes, I use the Colle Zukertort system as white. A very easy system to play with little to no opening study required. You just play simple moves like d4, Nf3, e3, Bd3, b3, Bb2, Nbd2, and 0-0 and you get a playable game against virtually anything black plays.
Zukertort

Absurd wrote: I've used the Colle system and its cousin the Stonewall. In the Colle the idea is to play defensively at first and then quickly transition to offense after an e4 break. Before then, you'll probably be a bit hard-pressed to develop some pieces.


Absurd, you might wish to qualify that you are referring to the c3-Colle [or the Colle-Koltanowski].  The b3-colle does not have this in mind.

In neither case would I consider White playing "defensively."


Zukertort

Patzer24 wrote: Yes, I use the Colle Zukertort system as white. A very easy system to play with little to no opening study required. You just play simple moves like d4, Nf3, e3, Bd3, b3, Bb2, Nbd2, and 0-0 and you get a playable game against virtually anything black plays.


While the Colle-Zukertort does have less memorization in it than most other openings, I would not characterize it in this way. In fact, I believe this is the sort of rumor that can cause Colle-Zukertort players a lot of grief. There are certain lines Black can play that make it rather unwise for White to play the setup suggested [which is considered the "normal" set of moves for the C-Z.]

Furthermore, move order is important in the C-Z, just as it is in any other significant opening.

I wrote a book [Zuke - Em: The Colle-Zukertort Revolutionized] that goes into detail on this opening. You can check out excerpts, reviews, reader comments, etc. at www.zukertort.com

-David


FVC123

Thank you i will check that out.

4arms

i nerly always use it

4arms

it look like this

FVC123

Thank you so much i will try it

FVC123

How does that go?

FVC123

Thank you and does it matter what the opponent does and is it better for white or black?

FVC123

okay thank you so much

FVC123

How does that one go?

kosmeg

The Fried Liver Attack is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nxd5 6.Nxf7 It's considered to be quite risky.

The Trompowsky is not as good as you point out as black can equalize after 2... Ne4, but it's good as a surprise weapon.

Rich your diagram is wrong, there's no pawn on d5.

FVC123

Okay cool thank you everyone for theur advice i need it.

FVC123

Well i will have to try both ways and see.

kosmeg

I mean in your diagram about the Trompowsky Attack, There's no pawn on d5.

FVC123

lol

kosmeg

you mean that the move ordrer is 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 d5?

FVC123

ok thats a lot of different ways to go