Owens defense

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Cali_boy613
I've heard a lot of polarizing opinions on this opening, so I just wanted to try and clear it up. Is the Owen's defense a good opening?
Cherub_Enjel

It's an OK opening that is very easy to play as black. White should have no problems against it, and should emerge with a slight edge.

I don't recommend that players on your level play it, however. 

Cali_boy613
And why is that cherub?
Blameitonhank

Fenix, I used to play it pretty often (and still do).  But I think maybe that Cherub is stating that first, you should choose a classical defense.  Owen's Defense revolves around 1. e4 b6, seeking to apply pressure to the center from the wings, BUT Black does not establish a foothold in the center.  I believe that Cherub is implying that you should begin first with classical defenses, to learn the basics.  This would imply learning 1. e4 e5, which gives you control of the center, piece development, and an easier plan towards castling. 

Simply put - with 1. e4 e5, you have contested the center, you have given both your queen and king bishop breathing room to develop, and you are that much closer to castling.  With 1...b6, you have not put a pawn in the center, you have only allowed one piece breathing room, and you are no closer to quickly castling than you would have if you had chosen something more like 1...e5.  You still have to move the queen and the queen knight to get in queenside castling, and there is no guarantee that you will want to castle queenside either. 

If you do opt for 1. e4 b6, the simplest approach is something similar to French Defense, with the ideas of ...b6, ...Bb7, ...e6 and seeking to strike the center with ...d5.  The other main idea there seems to be playing into a Hippopotamus formation.  There are also many other flexible ideas, such as a delayed Sicilian, a double fianchetto line, etc.

BUT Cherub is right...with all of these options, you still fail to take time to really understand classical chess.  You have far more games at your disposal to learn from with 1. e4 e5.

MarkLoGrande

I play it with reasonable success. If your opponent is prepared for it, get ready to defend for awhile. That being said, your opponent will always make mistakes, so you’ll have chances. 

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MarkLoGrande a écrit :

I play it with reasonable success. If your opponent is prepared for it, get ready to defend for awhile. That being said, your opponent will always make mistakes, so you’ll have chances. 

Well, we could say this for almost any opening.

IMKeto

"To b6, or not to b6...that is the question."

testaaaaa

with best play white has no more than +0.7 max 

IMKeto
testaaaaa wrote:

with best play white has no more than +0.7 max 

Thats playing against an engine, but what about against other real life people?

testaaaaa

talked to NM darkunorthodox and the videos i found on the youtube with "crushing the owens" do not show best play from black - its also very nice to learn it together with the queens indian