petrov's skewer opening

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maxwell4114
so i thought of this opening and I'm thinking of calling it the petrov's skewer since it has no current name

maxwell4114

it's an opening for black that when i played i realized is extremely offensive

Faceless_shad0w

I know yours too buddy boy

LOSTATCHESS

please do something about these guys long posts

superzacian9

Can we get back to the topic here?

maxwell4114

sorry its just my friend goofing off

maxwell4114

im just wondering if we can change the official name of it to "petrov's skewer"

SacrifycedStoat

I like that. It’s a cool opening, worth looking into. The funny thing is, there is a line (double gambit variation) in which white loses two pawns, but does not have a disadvantage.

SacrifycedStoat
Of course, white should have played Na3 instead of Nc3, and would have had an advantage despite being down one pawn
maxwell4114

in this situation the evaluation is -0.2 meaning white does have a disadvantage, but its not much

maxwell4114

also white is only down 1 pawn because its a variation of the classic petrov and white only lost 2 pawns after gaining one

maxwell4114

they also should have played c4 not Na3

maxwell4114

i would like to add that when i played this against someone, i found that the opponent just couldn't catch a break because the attack i was causing was incredibly brutal with multiple mate threats and forks

maxwell4114

theres also a theoretical gambit where you take with the knight instead of the queen for a discovered check

yetanotheraoc
SacrifycedStoat wrote:
Of course, white should have played Na3 instead of Nc3, and would have had an advantage despite being down one pawn

I rather like 7.O-O instead.

superzacian9

I knew but it was a good opening overall. 👍

maxwell4114

i also found a variation of it with a knight sac

Mazetoskylo

Junk opening.

magipi
maxwell4114 wrote:

it's an opening for black that when i played i realized is extremely offensive

That Qe7 and Qxe4 line in the first diagram is very suspicious. The queen is badly placed there, and will lose even more time running to safety. Meanwhile, white will play Be2, then castle, then attack in the center. White is clearly better.

You wrote that the line is "offensive" for black, but the opposite is true. White will be attacking, and black has to defend well to avoid losing the queen and getting checkmated.

maxwell4114
magipi wrote:
maxwell4114 wrote:

it's an opening for black that when i played i realized is extremely offensive

That Qe7 and Qxe4 line in the first diagram is very suspicious. The queen is badly placed there, and will lose even more time running to safety. Meanwhile, white will play Be2, then castle, then attack in the center. White is clearly better.

You wrote that the line is "offensive" for black, but the opposite is true. White will be attacking, and black has to defend well to avoid losing the queen and getting checkmated.

the opening is not meant to be the best, but its not bad either, as long as you're not playing against stockfish, black is doing okay in the position, and if you really want to trash on a chess opening, there is a forum for the damiano defense