Playing against Caro-Kann Defense

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Thanks everyone.

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as white!? I personally play 2.f4 for no reason, and for some reason it works out pretty well. Ofc, I will play accelerated Panov-Botvinnik attack OTB to give myself an IQP.

The 2.f4 line:

 

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Optimissed wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I'd play 3. ...Bf5. I think it must be better. No point wasting a move to loosen black's game.

 

Why ....Qb6? It's horrible.

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Optimissed wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I'd play 3. ...Bf5. I think it must be better. No point wasting a move to loosen black's game.

 

Why ....Qb6? It's horrible.

I guess it puts pressure on d4 and b2. 

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4...Bg4 seems better than 4...Bf5, IMO. 

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I'd rather swap the bishop for white's bishop than his knight. I didn't like Qb6 because black isn't seriously threatening d4, unlike in the French Advance. Obviously white was completely lost. g4 would have been better than Kh1. In such positions, white tries to play dc followed by b4.

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as white!? I personally play 2.f4 for no reason, and for some reason it works out pretty well. Ofc, I will play accelerated Panov-Botvinnik attack OTB to give myself an IQP.

The 2.f4 line:  1.  e4 c6 2.  f4 d5 3.  e5 c5 actually best here, but Bf5 works too. 4.  Nf3 Bf5 5.  d4 opening prep ends here. ONE possible continutation: 5...  Nc6 6.  c3 Qb6 7.  Bd3 Bxd3 8.  Qxd3 e6 9.  O-O Nh6 10.  h3 Be7 11.  Kh1 Nf5 12.  g4 ?! is probably too weakening, but interesting. 12...  Nh6 13.  Nbd2 O-O-O 14.  b4 !?

 

umm, 12. ... Ng3    - Maybe there is a misprint or typographical error?

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He just missed it. It was a bad game.

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SwimmerBill wrote:
SNUDOO wrote:

as white!? I personally play 2.f4 for no reason, and for some reason it works out pretty well. Ofc, I will play accelerated Panov-Botvinnik attack OTB to give myself an IQP.

The 2.f4 line:  1.  e4 c6 2.  f4 d5 3.  e5 c5 actually best here, but Bf5 works too. 4.  Nf3 Bf5 5.  d4 opening prep ends here. ONE possible continutation: 5...  Nc6 6.  c3 Qb6 7.  Bd3 Bxd3 8.  Qxd3 e6 9.  O-O Nh6 10.  h3 Be7 11.  Kh1 Nf5 12.  g4 ?! is probably too weakening, but interesting. 12...  Nh6 13.  Nbd2 O-O-O 14.  b4 !?

 

umm, 12. ... Ng3    - Maybe there is a misprint or typographical error?

No, I was blitzing for both sides. What I wrote was just a "sample variation" and not one of my games, because I can't even stand to look at the number of missed wins for both sides... Just looking for <2 seconds means that I don't make the best moves for both sides.

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Thank you for the answer.

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My suggestions: I know a few ways to play against it. 1. like Geller- play a main line, get more space & trade down to the endgame and win due to space & weak squares of black. 2. If you can play with an isolated QP, play the Panov. Ignore the theory [that your opponent will know] and just play it like a Tarrasch reversed. 3. There is an old game where Fischer played the exchange against Petrosian and won an important game [if my memory is correct]. Play thru it and follow his plan as far as you can. 4. In the Nf6, Ne4xf6, exf6 line, either, work to control f5 by Bd3 and Nf3-h4 or g3, Bg2 then work for the d5 break.  I've been most successful with #1 but its also the most boring  so I usually cycle between them depending on how I want to lost that day.