Ponziani?

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Avatar of Mainline_Novelty

I have seen some people who like to play 1.e4 e5 2.c3 but how do u meet 2...Nf6?

Avatar of Piman

Just continue to develop your pieces normally e.g. g1f3

Avatar of Mainline_Novelty

3...Nc6 now the e-pawn is attacked.

Avatar of Spiffe

I presume you mean 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3.  Check out the Game Explorer... the book move from 3... Nf6 is playing d4 anyway, and then if Nxe4, you play d5 and plan to take the e5 pawn back with your knight.  It can get pretty wild after 5... Bc5, though, it's an interesting little opening.

Avatar of chawil

Have a look at this link:

http://www.eudesign.com/chessops/cpnj-03a.htm

I highly recommend ChessOps, for learning the openings as each and every move is explained.

Avatar of Sugden1403

i ocassionally play the Ponziani and even though many top players have analysed an easy equalise for black, white has many opportunities if black does not know the line: here is an example of how Black  can fall into some real trobule if he just plays logically!

1. e4 e5  2. Nf3 Nc6  3. c3 Nf6  4. d4 Nxe4  5. d5 Ne7  6. Nxe5 d6 7. Bb5+ and black is losing badly.

Avatar of Elubas

the ponziani is a little too passive, it's more logical to play c3 after 3Bc4 Bc5, black has less options that way.

Avatar of heracrossx

Actually, c3 after Bc4 Bc5 is a gambit, and black has chances to keep the pawn. In the ponziani (which is my pet opening), white can immediately regain the pawn and can also set many traps. I.e. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 exd4 5. e5 Ne4 6. Qe5 f5 7. exf5 (e.p.) d5 and on the next turn, white can sacrifice the f6 pawn to prevent black from castling and then recapture the d4 pawn.

Avatar of MsCloyescapade

Do you keep these people in your back pocket?

Maybe not the best option but always a fun game...

Avatar of Elubas
heracrossx wrote:

Actually, c3 after Bc4 Bc5 is a gambit, and black has chances to keep the pawn. In the ponziani (which is my pet opening), white can immediately regain the pawn and can also set many traps. I.e. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 exd4 5. e5 Ne4 6. Qe5 f5 7. exf5 (e.p.) d5 and on the next turn, white can sacrifice the f6 pawn to prevent black from castling and then recapture the d4 pawn.


I usually play the 4 c3 line against e4 e5, and I have absolutely no intention of sacrificing a pawn. after 4 Nf6, I play 5 0-0 (the pawn can now be won back) 0-0 and now I think 6 d4 can be played with no sacrifice, and I really like this line. But for some reason, these moves are pretty rare in my database but white's position looks quite good to me.

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well basically I like it for white and Nf6 is not the best move for black against it....d5 is!

watch the first video on this link: very useful!

http://www.chesshere.com/chess_movies.php