Ponziani opening traps

Sort:
Avatar of kantifields

Anybody else up to a game playing the Ponziani (either side).

Avatar of TrumanB

I'd like to. We can play correspondence 3 moves per day or 10min blitz. And I'd like white pieces. :)

Avatar of kantifields
TrumanB wrote:

I'd like to. We can play correspondence 3 moves per day or 10min blitz. And I'd like white pieces. :)

I can't play blitz now, no mouse.

Avatar of kantifields

I was talking about the blitz.  I am extremely slow as it is.

Avatar of Crazychessplaya

At your disposal you have, as white, the following moves: 3.Bb5 (Spanish), 3.Bc4 (Italian), 3.d4 (Scotch) and 3.Nc3 (Four Knights or Three Knights). Any one of these moves is superior to 3.c3. Just ask any NM or higher. To play the Ponziani, you really have to hold your opponent in contempt.

Avatar of ponz111

I played and beat many masters with the Ponziani and did not hold even one of them in contempt.

One thing good about the Ponziani is that players such as Crazy here underestimate the opening.

Avatar of kantifields
YOLO-SWAGGER wrote:
ponz111 wrote:

I played and beat many masters with the Ponziani 

whom? 

Once more into the breech!

Avatar of kantifields

?

i did not block u

Avatar of kantifields

you're lucky

Avatar of kantifields

Did NM 1Random crush the Fraser?

Avatar of kantifields
Avatar of TrumanB

kantifields, it would be better if you post from the first move...

by the way, I am random guy :)

Avatar of kantifields

Truman,

Notice the rook on g1?

Yolo,

That appears to bethe final position.

Avatar of TrumanB

Oh, this is a different position. OK, but why did you put it?

Avatar of kantifields
TrumanB wrote:

Oh, this is a different position. OK, but why did you put it?

There has been some debate on the effectiveness of the Fraser defense (gambit) to the Ponziani.  This game was such a game.  Until now the Fraser had not lost a single game in the Centaur challenge.  This would be the first. 

But there is something odd.  Black to move resigned.

Avatar of TrumanB

Are you saying that Fraser is actually better than 3...d5 or Nf6?

Avatar of kantifields

I am not saying that.  Both d5 and Nf6 give good games.

The Fraser requires extreme accuracy.  Probably suitable for centaur and correspondence chess.

check this forum

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/ponziani-impractical-in-non-computer-correspondence-chess

Avatar of kantifields

Interestingly I posted this comment a year ago about the Fraser.      This appears to be the line that 1random played.

12 months ago · Quote · Edit · Delete · #34

kantifields

12. Na3 has more to offer than 12. Nbd2

Avatar of ponz111

Did you ever consider that Black did not lose a single game because I was playing Black?

The Fraser is very complicated. It is a good line for White as Black has to find exact moves for 20 moves or so to keep from losing.

However chess is a draw with perfect play by both sides. Also the Fraser is a draw if Black can find the best moves for a long number of moves. Almost zero percent of Black players would know or be able to find such sequences.

Avatar of ponz111

YOLO you are a troll.