Re-read my post, I am not blostering anything you prat. I am simply demonstrating just how banal it is to so flippantly dismiss a move, any move with a moronic sound-byte such as a 'garbage move'. If you want  a slower game:Fixated on ratings? How about a 60 point gap between two 2300 ELO plus

I could go on...Morozevich used it to draw against Makarichev Moscow 1992...and on....Kevin Spraggett of Canada (ELO 2500 plus) has used it to win in 2002....and on.

Dude, If you want to dismiss moves on half arsed sound bytes that up to you but you are missing aircraft sized oppotunities as they pass you by.

Hadron.

firebrand. when you have a suggestion. make it.  otherwise, keep the engines churning.

Ponz, you are confusing me again.  You told Loek you had analysis that was complicated (30 moves leading to a draw), but he needed to message you privately.  He asked you to post it and you said you are no longer able to analyze (sorry about that).  Then ask for replies to your suggestion.

Firebrand says 8. Be3 "sucks".  Although that may be true, I would appreciate it if he told us why his engine told him it is a bad move.

For LoekBergman

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+7. Ke2 Bb6 8. Qd5 Nf2 9. Rg1 O-O 10. cxb7 Bxb7 11. Qxb7 Qf6 12. Qd5 c6 13. Qc4 d5 14.  Qb3 e4!! is deadly

14. Qb3 e4!!  15. Nd4  c5

14. Qb3 e4!!  15. Ne1 Rfe8

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[Event "ICC 3 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2010.11.04"]
[Round "-"]
[White "HolyLight"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ICCResult "White resigns"]
[WhiteElo "1743"]
[BlackElo "1970"]
[Opening "Ponziani: Fraser defense"]
[ECO "C44"]
[NIC "KP.05"]
[Time "03:56:11"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6
8. Qd3 Nf2 9. Qf5 O-O 10. Rg1 d5 11. Qh5 bxc6 12. Be3 Bxe3 13. Kxe3 Ng4+ 14.
Kd2 Rb8 15. Kc1 f5 16. Nbd2 c5 17. Ng5 h6 18. Ngf3 d4 19. h3 Ne3 20. Nxe5
dxc3 21. bxc3 Be6 22. Bc4 Bxc4 23. Ndxc4 Nxc4 24. Nxc4 Qd3 25. Nd2 Qxc3+ 26.
Kd1 Qxa1+ {White resigns} 0-1
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[Event "SVK-chT3B 0203"]
[Site "Slovakia"]
[Date "2003.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chovanec, Milan"]
[Black "Packa, Ladislav"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "2137"]
[BlackElo "2251"]
[Annotator "Joe Eversole Variation of the English Opening"]
[PlyCount "71"]
[EventDate "2002.10.??"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "11"]
[EventCountry "SVK"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2004.11.15"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6 8.
Qd5 Nf2 9. cxb7 Bxb7 10. Qxb7 O-O 11. Bg5 f6 12. Qd5+ Kh8 13. Be3 Nxh1 14. Bxb6
axb6 15. Na3 Ra5 16. Qd2 d5 17. g3 Qd7 18. Bg2 e4 19. Rxh1 exf3+ 20. Bxf3 d4
21. Qxd4 Qe6+ 22. Kf2 Qxa2 23. Nc4 Rc5 24. Be2 Rf5+ 25. Kg2 b5 26. Qe4 Rg5 27.
h4 Rg6 28. Qe7 Qa8+ 29. Bf3 Qb8 30. Ne3 Re8 31. Qc5 Re5 32. Qd4 c5 33. Qf4 Rh6
34. Ng4 g5 35. Qd2 gxh4 36. Qxh6 1-0

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[Event "ICC 1 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2010.04.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jamomo"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "1856"]
[BlackElo "1924"]
[PlyCount "60"]
[EventDate "2010.??.??"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6 8.
Qd5 Nf2 9. cxb7 Bxb7 10. Qxb7 Nxh1 11. Be3 O-O 12. Bxb6 axb6 13. g3 e4 14. Nd4
Qg5 15. Bg2 Nxg3+ 16. hxg3 Qxg3 17. Bxe4 Rae8 18. Nd2 f5 19. Qd5+ Kh8 20. Nxf5
Qf4 21. Rf1 Rxf5 22. Qxf5 Qxf5 23. Rxf5 c6 24. Kf3 d5 25. Bd3 g6 26. Rh5 gxh5
27. Nf1 Rf8+ 28. Kg3 Rg8+ 29. Kh4 Rf8 30. Ne3 Rf3 {White forfeits on time} 0-1

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[Event "ICC 1 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2010.05.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "enog"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "2006"]
[BlackElo "2034"]
[PlyCount "88"]
[EventDate "2010.??.??"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6 8.
Qd5 Nf2 9. cxb7 Bxb7 10. Qxb7 Nxh1 11. Bg5 f6 12. Bh4 O-O 13. Nbd2 d5 14. Qa6
d4 15. cxd4 exd4 16. Qd3 Re8+ 17. Kd1 Qd5 18. Qc4 Rad8 19. Qxd5+ Rxd5 20. Bc4
c6 21. Bxd5+ cxd5 22. Rc1 d3 23. Rc6 Nf2+ 24. Bxf2 Bxf2 25. Rd6 Bb6 26. Rxd5
Re2 27. g3 Rg2 28. Rxd3 h5 29. a4 h4 30. gxh4 Kh7 31. b4 Kg6 32. a5 Bg1 33.
Nxg1 Rxg1+ 34. Kc2 Rh1 35. Rg3+ Kh6 36. Rg2 f5 37. Nf3 f4 38. Ne5 Ra1 39. Kb2
Ra4 40. Kb3 Ra1 41. Kb2 Rf1 42. Ng6 f3 43. Rg3 Rb1+ 44. Kxb1 f2 {White
forfeits on time} 0-1

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[Event "ICC 1 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2010.06.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Mr-Unstoppable"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "2146"]
[BlackElo "2109"]
[PlyCount "64"]
[EventDate "2010.??.??"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6 8.
cxd7+ Bxd7 9. Nxe5 Nf2 10. Qxd7+ Qxd7 11. Nxd7 Kxd7 12. Be3 Bxe3 13. Kxe3 Nxh1
14. Na3 Rae8+ 15. Kf3 c6 16. Bc4 f5 17. Rxh1 b5 18. Rd1+ Kc7 19. Bd3 g6 20. Nc2
a5 21. Nd4 Kb6 22. a3 a4 23. c4 bxc4 24. Bxc4 Re4 25. Ba2 Rd8 26. Bb1 Rexd4 27.
Re1 Rd2 28. Re2 Rxe2 29. Kxe2 Kc5 30. Bd3 Kd4 31. Ba6 Rb8 32. b3 axb3 {White
resigns} 0-1

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[Event "ICC 1 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2009.12.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "strelok"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "1757"]
[BlackElo "1842"]
[PlyCount "32"]
[EventDate "2009.??.??"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6 8.
cxd7+ Bxd7 9. Nbd2 Nf2 10. Qb3 Nxh1 11. Nxe5 O-O 12. Kd1 Nf2+ 13. Kc2 Ng4 14.
Nxg4 Bxg4 15. Nc4 Bf5+ 16. Bd3 Qxd3# {White checkmated} 0-1

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[Event "ICC 1 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2009.12.26"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Robinho"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "1763"]
[BlackElo "2020"]
[PlyCount "52"]
[EventDate "2009.??.??"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6 8.
Be3 Bxe3 9. Kxe3 d5 10. Bd3 f5 11. Nxe5 O-O 12. c4 bxc6 13. Nxc6 Qg5+ 14. Kd4
dxc4 15. Bxc4+ Kh8 16. Qf3 Bb7 17. Ne5 Rad8+ 18. Bd5 Rxd5+ 19. Kc4 Rxe5 20. Nc3
Nd2+ 21. Kb4 Nxf3 22. gxf3 Bxf3 23. Rhg1 Qf4+ 24. Kb3 Rb8+ 25. Kc2 Be4+ 26.
Nxe4 Qxe4+ {White resigns} 0-1

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[Event "ICC 1 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2010.05.13"]
[Round "?"]
[White "swc"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "1694"]
[BlackElo "1924"]
[PlyCount "32"]
[EventDate "2010.??.??"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6 8.
Qd5 Nf2 9. Qxe5+ Kf8 10. Be3 Ng4 11. Bc5+ d6 12. Qd5 bxc6 13. Qxc6 Bxc5 14.
Qxa8 Ba6+ 15. c4 Qxa8 16. Nc3 Bxc4+ {White resigns} 0-1

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[Event "ICC 1 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2010.04.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "swc"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "1722"]
[BlackElo "1951"]
[PlyCount "52"]
[EventDate "2010.??.??"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6 8.
Qd5 Nf2 9. Qxe5+ Kf8 10. Rg1 dxc6 11. Be3 Ng4 12. Qf4 Nxe3 13. Nbd2 Be6 14. Rd1
h6 15. Re1 Kg8 16. Nd4 Bxa2 17. Qxe3 Kh7 18. Kf2 Re8 19. Bd3+ Kg8 20. Qg3 c5
21. Nf5 Qf6 22. Rxe8+ Rxe8 23. Re1 c4+ 24. Kf1 Rxe1+ 25. Kxe1 cxd3 26. Nxh6+
Qxh6 {White forfeits on time} 0-1

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[Event "ICC 1 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2010.04.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "swc"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "1703"]
[BlackElo "1934"]
[PlyCount "92"]
[EventDate "2010.??.??"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6 8.
Qd5 Nf2 9. Qxe5+ Kf8 10. Rg1 dxc6 11. Be3 Ng4 12. Bc5+ Kg8 13. Qd4 Bf5 14. Bxb6
axb6 15. Nbd2 h6 16. Qxd8+ Rxd8 17. h3 Nf6 18. Re1 Kh7 19. Kd1 Rhe8 20. Rxe8
Rxe8 21. Nd4 Bd7 22. Bd3+ Kg8 23. Re1 Ra8 24. a3 c5 25. Nf5 b5 26. Re7 b4 27.
axb4 cxb4 28. cxb4 Kf8 29. Re1 Ra4 30. Ne4 Rxb4 31. Nxf6 gxf6 32. Kc2 Bxf5 33.
Bxf5 Rf4 34. Bd3 Rf2+ 35. Re2 Rf4 36. Rd2 c5 37. Re2 c4 38. Be4 b5 39. Bf3 b4
40. Kd2 b3 41. Kc3 Rd4 42. Rd2 Rxd2 43. Kxd2 c3+ 44. Kxc3 f5 45. Kxb3 f4 46.
Kc3 Ke7 {White forfeits on time} 0-1

[Event "US Womens' Championship"]
[Site "Tulsa USA"]
[Date "2008.05.13"]
[EventDate "2008.05.13"]
[Round "1"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Esther Epstein"]
[Black "Batchimeg Tuvshintugs"]
[ECO "C44"]
[WhiteElo "2184"]
[BlackElo "2278"]
[PlyCount "74"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6
Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6 8. Qd5 Nf2 9. Bg5 f6 10. Nxe5 Qe7 11. cxd7+
Bxd7 12. Qxd7+ Qxd7 13. Nxd7 Kxd7 14. Be3 Rae8 15. Kxf2 Rxe3
16. g3 Rxc3+ 17. Ke2 Rc2+ 18. Kd3 Rxb2 19. Bh3+ Ke7 20. Re1+
Kf7 21. Be6+ Kg6 22. Nc3 Rd8+ 23. Nd5 Rb5 24. Ke4 Re8 25. Kf3
Ba5 26. Reb1 Rc5 27. Rxb7 Kh6 28. Bd7 Rd8 29. Be6 Re8 30. Bd7
Re5 31. Nf4 Rc3+ 32. Kg4 g5 33. Rxa7 gxf4 34. gxf4 Rh5 35. Rh1
Bb6 36. Ra8 Rch3 37. Rf8 f5+ 0-1

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Information about chimegdee(WIM) (Last disconnected Sat Apr 24 2010 14:38):

rating [need] win loss draw total best
Bullet 1916 [8] 23 12 0 35 1919 (16-Jul-2008)
Blitz 2260 [8] 233 251 23 507 2418 (02-Dec-2006)

1: WIM Batchimeg Tuvshintugs

Name : Tuvshintugs, Batchimeg
Groups : WIMs
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[Event "ICC 3 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2006.09.22" ]
[Round "-"]
[White "chimegdee"]
[Black "brianwall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ICCResult "White forfeits on time"]
[WhiteElo "2194"]
[BlackElo "2339"]
[Opening "Ruy Lopez: Berlin defense, 4.O-O"]
[ECO "C65"]
[NIC "RL.07"]
[Time "21:45:35"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Ng4 5. c3 a6 6. Bc4 Bc5 7. d4 Ba7 8.
Bg5 f6 9. Bh4 d6 10. Bd5 g5 11. Bg3 h5 12. h3 h4 13. Bh2 Nxh2 14. Nxh2 exd4
15. Ng4 Ne5 16. cxd4 Nxg4 17. hxg4 h3 18. g3 c6 19. Bb3 Qd7 20. e5 h2+ 21.
Kh1 Qxg4 22. Qxg4 Bxg4 23. f3 Bh3 24. Rf2 Bxd4 25. Rxh2 Ke7 26. exf6+ Kxf6
27. Nc3 d5 28. Rd1 Bb6 29. Bxd5 Bc7 30. Ne4+ Kg6 31. Bb3 Bf5 32. Rxh8 Rxh8+
33. Kg2 Bh3+ 34. Kf2 Bb6+ 35. Ke2 g4 36. f4 Bg2 37. Ng5 Rh2 38. Rd6+ Kg7 39.
Rd7+ Kf8 {White forfeits on time} 0-1

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[Event "ICC 3 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2006.09.22" ]
[Round "-"]
[White "chimegdee"]
[Black "brianwall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ICCResult "White checkmated"]
[WhiteElo "2217"]
[BlackElo "2316"]
[Opening "Ruy Lopez: Berlin defense, 4.O-O"]
[ECO "C65"]
[NIC "RL.07"]
[Time "21:36:14"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Ng4 5. d4 exd4 6. Nxd4 h5 7. Nc3 Bc5
8. Nf5 d6 9. Nxg7+ Kf8 10. Nf5 Bxf5 11. exf5 Qh4 12. Bf4 Bxf2+ 13. Kh1 Nxh2
14. Rxf2 Ng4+ 15. Kg1 Qxf2+ 16. Kh1 Qxf4 17. Bxc6 Qh2# {White checkmated}
0-1

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[Event "ICC 3 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2011.03.24"]
[Round "-"]
[White "HolyLight"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ICCResult "White disconnected and forfeits"]
[WhiteElo "1825"]
[BlackElo "2030"]
[Opening "Ponziani: Fraser defense"]
[ECO "C44"]
[NIC "KP.05"]
[Time "04:54:24"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6
8. Qd5 Nf2 9. cxb7 Bxb7 10. Qxb7 Nxh1 11. Be3 O-O 12. Bxb6 axb6 13. Na3 d5
14. Rd1 Ra5 15. Rd2 e4 16. Nd4 Qh4 17. g3 Qxh2+ 18. Kd1 Qg1 19. Nc6 Qxf1+
20. Kc2 Rc5 21. Ne7+ Kh8 22. Nxd5 Nf2 23. Ne3 Qe1 24. Ng2 Qg1 25. Nf4 Qxg3
26. Nd5 Nd3 27. Nc4 Rxc4 {White disconnected and forfeits} 0-1

[Event "ICC 3 0"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2011.04.25"]
[Round "-"]
[White "altoque"]
[Black "B-Wall"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ICCResult "White checkmated"]
[WhiteElo "1907"]
[BlackElo "2063"]
[Opening "Ponziani: Fraser defense"]
[ECO "C44"]
[NIC "KP.05"]
[Time "13:28:45"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb6
8. Qd5 Nf2 9. Qxe5+ Kf8 10. Be3 Nxh1 11. Bxb6 axb6 12. Na3 bxc6 13. g3 Ba6+
14. c4 d5 15. b3 Qd6 16. Qxd6+ cxd6 17. Bg2 Re8+ 18. Kf1 Nxg3+ 19. hxg3 dxc4
20. bxc4 Re3 21. Nc2 Bxc4+ 22. Kg1 Rc3 23. Ncd4 c5 24. Nf5 d5 25. Ne5 g6 26.
Nd7+ Ke8 27. Nf6+ Kd8 28. Nd6 Rxg3 29. Nxf7+ Ke7 30. Nxh8 Kxf6 31. Rd1 d4
32. Kf2 Ra3 33. Rc1 Be6 34. Rb1 Rxa2+ 35. Kg3 Ra8 36. Rxb6 Rxh8 37. Bd5 Re8
38. Rc6 Kf5 39. Bf3 Ke5 40. Rxc5+ Kd6 41. Rc6+ Ke5 42. Rc5+ Kd6 43. Rc6+ Kd7
44. Rc5 Rc8 45. Rc1 Rxc1 46. Kf4 Rf1 47. Ke5 Rxf3 48. Kxd4 Rf5 49. Ke3 h5
50. Ke2 h4 51. Ke3 h3 52. Ke4 h2 53. Kd4 h1=Q 54. Kd3 Qh4 55. Ke3 Rg5 56.
Ke2 Rg3 57. Kf2 Qh2+ 58. Kf1 Rg1# {White checkmated} 0-1

I posted some blitz games with the Fraser Defense so you can see what to expect in blitz games. I've been at this for 4 years. You Chess.com people in this thread are the first to take my analysis seriously and for that, I thank all of you.

When Cassandra refused Apollo's attempted seduction, he placed a curse on her so that her predictions and those of all her descendants would not be believed.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+

7. Ke2 Bb6 8. Qd5 Nf2 9. Rg1 O-O 10. cxb7 Bxb7 11. Qxb7 Qf6

12. Qa6 Rae8

12. Nbd2 e4

12. Na3 e4

12. Bg5 Qf5

It's hard to imagine so many White pieces on so many bad squares.

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You guys are doing a fantastic job of investigating. I am impressed.

I play the Ponziani for White just praying some players will follow suit - :).

Colorado Springs, CO held a Ponziani theme tournament last year.

My interest in the Fraser Defense really started with my discovery of the Full Metal Jacket Variation

1. d4  Nc6 2. d5 Ne5 3. e4 e6 4. f4 exd5 5. fxe5 Qh4+ 6. Kd2 Qh6+ 7. Kc3 Qc6+ 8.

Kd2 Qh6+ 9. Ke1 Qh4+

which I have been playing for 10 years.

I had Chessville.com articles about this which seem to have disappeared.

You can see the similarity in some lines of the Fraser Defense where Black has 3 pawns for a piece and a Full Metal Jacket ( all 8 pawns ).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VB0J0eBB4Q

Full Metal Jacket -- A New Chess Opening

Chris Peterson Chess Channel  Sagacious00004

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@BrianWall: thank you for sharing. I am very interested looking at it, but it will take a lot of time. I haven't got that much time for all you gave before thursday evening. I will definitely come back to it.

Short reaction about the move e4. The first thing I can see is that e4 is a very good answer after Qb3 indeed. After 13. Qb3 e4 14 N.. is 14... Ng4 very strong. 15. Be3 is forced to prevent the black queen entering f2.

13. Qb3 e4 14 Nd4 Ng4 15. Be3 c5 16. Nc2 c4 17. Qxc4 Bxe3 18. Nxe3 Qf2+ is game over.

Therefor should white answer 17. Qxb6 axb6 18. Na3 d5 19. Nb5 in this variant. The position of black is better.

Conclusion: I don't like e4 for white, but I do like it for black. :-)

For LoekBergman

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc5 6. dxc6 Bxf2+7. Ke2 Bb6 8. Qd5 Nf2 9. Rg1 O-O 10. cxb7 Bxb7 11. Qxb7 Qf6 12. Qd5 c6 13. Qc4 d5 14.  Qb3 e4!! is deadly

14. Qb3 e4!!  15. Nd4  Ng4 16. Be3 Nxe3 17. Kxe3 c5

is quite wretched for White.

I win almost every blitz game with the Fraser Defense, it will take the world a while to catch up to me.

The Fraser Defense and the Full Metal Jacket are hard to get in slow games so I played thousands of 1 minute, 3 minute and 5 minute just to get a little practice in with those openings.

Hey how do I make those click and moves on this site? I can do them on others.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3Nf6 4. d4 Nxe4 5. d5 Bc56. dxc6 Bxf2+ 7. Ke2 Bb68. Qd5 Nf2 9. Rg1 O-O10. cxb7 Bxb7 11. Qxb7Qf6 12. Qd5 c6 13. Qc4d5 14. Qh4 Qg6 15. Nbd2Rae8 16. Ke1 Ng417. Nb3 Bf2+ 18. Qxf2Nxf2 19. Kxf2 Qf620. Ke1

In this line Black has a nice option of NOT winning the Queen to keep his attack going.

17. Nb3  f5 18. Qg5 Qf7

looks like more fun to me.

Is this what you're after?

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damn you doggy