Positional Opening for Black against e4?

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ricechessmaster1 wrote:
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ricechessmaster1 wrote:

Does anyone know any good positional openings against 1.e4?

I've played 1...e5 most of my life but recently, it has lead to drawn games against Ruy Lopez and Italian game albeit pretty accurate play from both sides (I'm around 1400 OTB now).

bro how r u so high rated onl and so underrated in otb

inflation. and I'm really bad I just play speed chess 

I can relate.

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I am 1200 USCF lol. I am in a tournament now so my rating may go up a little bit

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ricechessmaster1 wrote:
BlitzKing45 a écrit :
ricechessmaster1 wrote:

Does anyone know any good positional openings against 1.e4?

I've played 1...e5 most of my life but recently, it has lead to drawn games against Ruy Lopez and Italian game albeit pretty accurate play from both sides (I'm around 1400 OTB now).

bro how r u so high rated onl and so underrated in otb

inflation. and I'm really bad I just play speed chess 

#relatable

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I'm 1200 FIDE lol (1190 bro) not too good

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Why are you all like that I'm like almost 2300 blitz and 1930 uscf

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Batman2508 wrote:

Why are you all like that I'm like almost 2300 blitz and 1930 uscf

probably because I dont play classical OTB that much...

If we're talking rapid which is way more common here in portugal then I'm 1590

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Batman2508 wrote:

Why are you all like that I'm like almost 2300 blitz and 1930 uscf

Because I have only played like 3 big tournaments

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also note FIDE is less than uscf in general but in portugal thee's even less inflation

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tourneys here are 90+30 which I lack practice in so theres also that

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ricechessmaster1 wrote:

tourneys here are 90+30 which I lack practice in so theres also that

isnt that all classical rated tournaments?

Only psychos play anything else

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ricechessmaster1 wrote:

tourneys here are 90+30 which I lack practice in so theres also that

Yeah same here. 90+30 is a different beast. It is so hard.

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I like it it's just too rare I play like one classical a year

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after playing 90+30 every other classical event just feels too fast for me honestly

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TheUltraTrap wrote:
ricechessmaster1 wrote:

tourneys here are 90+30 which I lack practice in so theres also that

isnt that all classical rated tournaments?

Only psychos play anything else

Bruh moment 

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ricechessmaster1 wrote:

HMmm soo it seems like caro, french and some sicillians are being mentioned. Are there any lines in particular that I would benefit studying from? Thanks for the responses btw

 

For Caro-Kann a good entry point is Landshoff's second book or get Houska's second book. In general as with all openings, there are many books on the Caro, I have about 20 books on C-K. Also games by Karpov, Botvinnik, Petrosian and the few games by Capablanca where he played the Caro are classics.

Above all, play a lot of games and analyse them in depth. I saw you have a good bullet rating but probably it's better avoid bullet & blitz, play slower games. It takes anywhere between 100-200 slower games to become proficient in an opening, so focus is key. Best of luck.

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Owens

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alrught thanks guys

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The French is a great one- very simple positional ideas of undermining White's center with c5 and adding pressure on the d4 pawn with Nc6, and often Qb6. Often leads to a more closed center and a game which focuses more on each sides weaknesses. 

If you don't like the French, the Caro is an alternative. The difference between the two is that in the Caro-Kann you give up a tempo (since you're playing c6 and then c5 instead of just c5 in one move) in order to get the light squared bishop out instead of trapping it behind e6 like in the French. Personally I would prefer the French of the two.

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If you're going to learn only the Caro or the French you still need to/absolutely must gain some level of familiarity with the other one--not be an expert, but be aware of some key ideas. The structures frequently shift from one to the other and there are many ideas in common (e.g., breaks with ...c5, sometimes breaks with ...f6, White playing Qg4, the placement of Black's light-squared Bishop, dealing with the pressure created by White's pawn on e5.)

Where can you get some of those key ideas in a relatively abbreviated form? I'd recommend GM Mauricio Flores Rios book Chess Structures: A GM Guide. He looks at many structures. But he does compare and contrast the C.K. and French structures. And for each he provides some thematic ideas for a variety of specific structures within each opening. I think it may even be available on Chessable now, which makes it easier to use in some ways. I have so many notes and highlighted points in the book that I don't think I'll get the online course.

If you want to learn the French, after you get the basics out of the way then I highly recommend IM John Watson's books on the topic. Again, that's after you become expert in the opening. John has been playing the opening since the 1960s and I found his latest on the French insightful, but VERY heavy. My takeaway was it pitched to the master and above level who already specialized in the opening.